Nick2cd Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Apologies if this is already common knowledge. apparently, grizzly is attempting to alter their shade of green closer to that of the festool green. is this a threat to the ts55? only time will tell. price is right. http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2013/Main/248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauchen67 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 its new to me, im curious about it. It obviously no festool but i wonder if it is better than harbor freight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's funny how they boast that it was "designed in Germany!" Uh, no duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 So the tool might not be the best in the business, but I am curious about that track. It looks almost identical to the Festool track, and I wonder if it would actually fit the Festool. That would be a cheap alternative to the tracks that Festool sells. Also, if those clamps work in the Festool track as well, those are a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 That looks interesting. I've been considering going to a track-saw type setup to be able to break down sheet goods before bringing it into my basement shop, but I couldn't justify the price for either the FS or Dewalt saws. I put a nicer plywood blade in my crappy Craftsman circ saw, and what a difference it made - nice clean cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 That looks interesting. I've been considering going to a track-saw type setup to be able to break down sheet goods before bringing it into my basement shop, but I couldn't justify the price for either the FS or Dewalt saws. I put a nicer plywood blade in my crappy Craftsman circ saw, and what a difference it made - nice clean cuts. Although none of us have actually tried the Grizzly tracksaw yet (because it is not available), I assume the cuts will not be as quality as the Festool. However, I could be proved wrong. With the correct blade on the set up, this saw might just wow some people for the price. After reading your post, I really thought about people to use this tool for rough cutting plywood. I know there are some people out there that no matter what, they like to break down the plywood into more manageable pieces, and take it to the table saw for more repeatable cuts. This saw would be incredibly fast, and affordable, for that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sign me up. Can't be the guinea pig right away, but ask me again in April. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I was reading the specs the saw has only a 9 amp motor as far as circ saws go that is under powered, as I do not own or desire a track saw from FT, or Griz and have no idea what the amperage of the FT TS has but when buying a circ saw you want as many amps as you can afford. Also I see the Griz TS only has a 55" track didn't see any extensions offered even though I'm not interested in a track saw that would be a deal breaker for me if I couldn't cut a sheet of ply the 8' way. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Woodguy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 One beef with other tracksaws I've seen (like DeWalt) is that the cost wasn't that far off from Festool's TS55, but this looks very interesting. It would be smart money if the tracks are perfectly compatible with the TS55 and accessories. I don't have problems paying more for a power tool itself, but non-mechanical accessories are a different story with me. Anyway, hope they have a longer track than 55/75". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I got to play with this last week when i went to the grizzly showroom. It plunges differently than the festool. I also got to try the ft t55 a few days later at a tool store near my house. I didnt try either with power, just comparing the difference in plunge and smoothness. My gatherings concluded the ft has a nicer plunge setup which feels smoother and more natural. This does not speak for accuracy comparisons, just my findings ( also there is huge price gap with these two saws, if the grizzly system works for the price then it is a steal!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I assume the cuts will not be as quality as the Festool. I don't think I would make that assumption - in fact, with the right blade, I assume it will make as good quality cuts. Only a head-to-head will answer that. In my mind the differentiation will be in additional features - blade change, DC performance, power, overall quality, adjustability features. FS also has variable speed, which could be an important feature for many people. I was reading the specs the saw has only a 9 amp motor as far as circ saws go that is under powered The Grizz is 1100W, and the FS looks to have 1200W (10A, according to their manual). FS has the edge but they are close. Also I see the Griz TS only has a 55" track didn't see any extensions offered It looks like the accessory kit comes with the rail connectors to connect multiple rails. I didn't see longer rails, so +1 to FS for offereing different size rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Oddly enough, I was planning on writing a quick article about this. I think it's particularly interesting given the price point. So I called their customer service line and introduced myself. I said that I am writing an article for my website and that I have a few basic questions (mainly pricing and availability). I was completely shut down. I was told that "since they are the sole distributor for the product, they don't do that." Do what?!?! Give people information about pricing and availability?! So make of that what you will, but it seems to me like they aren't too interested in generating buzz about this new product launch. Sup wit dat?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 You go girl!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I was completely shut down. Seriously? I would think they'd be chomping at the bit to get some free press. Their loss!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 These saws are all over Europe and have been out for a long time. Kity, Schepeche (not sure on spelling to lazy to google). I dont think they are compatible with festool tracks. If you feel up to using the translator or can speak the language there is lot of info on these saws. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 At that price I am extremely interested. Can't wait till it is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsomeguy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I was reading the specs the saw has only a 9 amp motor as far as circ saws go that is under powered, as I do not own or desire a track saw from FT, or Griz and have no idea what the amperage of the FT TS has but when buying a circ saw you want as many amps as you can afford. Also I see the Griz TS only has a 55" track didn't see any extensions offered even though I'm not interested in a track saw that would be a deal breaker for me if I couldn't cut a sheet of ply the 8' way. Just my 2 cents. It lists and accessory kit that includes a rail connector. I'm guessing that is meant to connect 2 or more of the guide rails together, like you do with Festool and others. The specs and basic design look very much like the Scheppach saw that is available at McFeelys. http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/STC-90700/Scheppach-Plunge-Saw-with-Rails Does "Designed in Germany!" mean that the saw they copied was designed by a company in Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 It lists and accessory kit that includes a rail connector. I'm guessing that is meant to connect 2 or more of the guide rails together, like you do with Festool and others. The specs and basic design look very much like the Scheppach saw that is available at McFeelys. http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/STC-90700/Scheppach-Plunge-Saw-with-Rails Does "Designed in Germany!" mean that the saw they copied was designed by a company in Germany? Rebranded not a copy. Note that this plunge circular saw, largely modeled on the Festool is incompatible with the environment Festool guide (off their web site put into google translator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pants Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I was reading the specs the saw has only a 9 amp motor as far as circ saws go that is under powered, as I do not own or desire a track saw from FT, or Griz and have no idea what the amperage of the FT TS has but when buying a circ saw you want as many amps as you can afford. Also I see the Griz TS only has a 55" track didn't see any extensions offered even though I'm not interested in a track saw that would be a deal breaker for me if I couldn't cut a sheet of ply the 8' way. Just my 2 cents. TS-55 has a 10amp motor, I would expect that extensions will come quickly. I am curious what the cut quality is like. I could be very interested in this for breaking down sheet stock if it's not utterly terrible. The way I work I don't think I'd take it (or wood from a TS-55) directly to joinery anyways, and it would likely be going to the good old tablesaw afterwards so if it's better than what I currently have (straight-edge and a cheap-o Skillsaw) it may make more sense for me than the cost of the Festool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 justsomeguy and Don beat me to it - these are available under other names (such as Scheppach), on other sites. It should help researching reviews and feedback. Oddly, I went through the McFeely's catalog last night and either it wasn't there or I just totally skipped over it. Could it be the Grizzly name that's bringing more awareness to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sorry I misread the Griz sites descripion now I see that the two rails couple together that makes more sense, oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleheon Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 It looks as though this saw is available, has anyone picked one up yet? Very interested in how it performs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Crawford Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I think Marc has one and plans to do a short demo and thoughts video. . . but with all he has on his plate may be awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 OK you guys guilted me into filming this "review" today. I'll get it up on the site as soon as I can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcrosley Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Hmm... is there a hint in the fact that he calls it a "review" (with scary quotes around it?) I'm not expecting a Festool quality saw, but for a hobbyist, if you can get most of the way there for a fraction of the price, then, it certainly might be worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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