Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's been brought up so many times recently that this brand is a great bang for your buck, that brand will last longer.. Yada yada. This band saw is under a year old. Already replaced 1 upper bearing, 2 lower bearings, tires due to them being very lumpy from the factory, had missing fence parts from the factory and now today. saw is set for tension on a 3/8" blade, I was adjusting the lower bearings when the plate snapped pushing the blade forward into the guard probably ruining the teeth on a blade that has cut one piece of wood.. The sound it made was definitely a bang. fool me once.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 what model number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's the G0555LANV 14" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capwn Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Sucks to hear/see - have you contacted Griz to see what they can do for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Ya maybe they can send you a garbage truck to pick it up for you and arrange delivery of a PM or Laguna? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yep. But it seems like you can't convince people...they have to experience it themselves. I've learned my lesson. No mas for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 maybe that is what happens when you fully tension a low tension blade on a hobby saw? Seriously that sucks. I only made the joke above because a couple of us have struggled with the right tension for a timberwolf blade. I stopped using mine on my PM1500 because it required more tension than I wanted to give it, and the PM1500 is built like a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 34 minutes ago, Al Capwn said: Sucks to hear/see - have you contacted Griz to see what they can do for you? I have not, it happened after they had already closed their call center but they'll definitely be hearing from me tomorrow. 29 minutes ago, Eric. said: Yep. But it seems like you can't convince people...they have to experience it themselves. I've learned my lesson. No mas for me. I know, that was the entire point of the post. Straight up fact on a 10month old saw. Hey Cliff, got a deal for you. 23 minutes ago, Mike. said: maybe that is what happens when you fully tension a low tension blade on a hobby saw? Seriously that sucks. I only made the joke above because a couple of us have struggled with the right tension for a timberwolf blade. I stopped using mine on my PM1500 because it required more tension than I wanted to give it, and the PM1500 is built like a tank. No man I deserve it. I had read the warnings and did it anyway. I'm shopping for a replacement right now that very well may be mustard yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capwn Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yikes. Well, sounds like yours certainly was a dud - hopefully mine doesn't explode as fantastically as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Al Capwn said: Yikes. Well, sounds like yours certainly was a dud - hopefully might doesn't explode as fantastically as that. Hope not but take care. When it let go and completely un tensioned, the spinning blade jumped at least a full inch forward biting at the insert. If a hand was closer, it wouldn't have cared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yikes! That's bad luck. Makes me cringe, because I have the 555LX bandsaw, which is essentially the same model with a different color. I'm going to just gauge the tension manually by pushing the blade sideways with my finger from now on... No need to tempt fate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 54 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Hey Cliff, got a deal for you. Lol 33 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Hope not but take care. When it let go and completely un tensioned, the spinning blade jumped at least a full inch forward biting at the insert. If a hand was closer, it wouldn't have cared. Were you spinning the wheel by hand or was the saw powered up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, JosephThomas said: Lol Were you spinning the wheel by hand or was the saw powered up? That puppy was fully spooled up and going. I had taken the blade guard off to spray compressed air around the head for cleaning. I'm happy I put it back on about 3 minutes prior. 6 minutes ago, Arrdenet said: Yikes! That's bad luck. Makes me cringe, because I have the 555LX bandsaw, which is essentially the same model with a different color. I'm going to just gauge the tension manually by pushing the blade sideways with my finger from now on... No need to tempt fate... The problem is that they claim you can run a 3/4" blade on this saw... That has to be a joke right? There is NO POSSIBLE way this thing would be able to properly tension a thick blade that size. I've always felt I wasn't even getting good enough tension on a 1/2" blade. The fact that the piece broke with 3/8" tension on the gauge only reinforces this theory to me. The blade was still fluttering so much it was touching both guides that had been opened all the way up so call it almost 1/2 of lateral blade movement.They are either delusional or outright lying to their customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Hate to hear that dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brown Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 You have had some mighty unfortunate luck with Grizz over the last year Eric. Enough that I do not want to risk similar luck at least. I probably can not afford PM or Laguna but I won't be getting a Grizzly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Well..I guess its not hard for grizz to screw up a bandsaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 That sucks. Here I was thinking about a Griz to upgrade over my HF, but it doesn't seem to be much of an upgrade in the quality department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew-in-austin Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 That really sucks. Maybe buy a higher quality saw next time, like a PM, MiniMax, or a higher end Grizzly saw. Grizzly should really separate their models in two different company names, like Jet/Powermatic, so they can sell the Harbor Freight junk they carry under the cheap name and the decent stuff under a different name. Breakages like this are why people assume everything Grizzly makes is junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Fortunately there are hundreds of people that are completely satisfied with their Griz purchases. For every failure within 1 year, there are probably 10 that last 15 years. I'm sure they have an expected failure rate within x number of months. Whatever that is. May be as high as 10-15%. Who knows. Less than one year is clearly unacceptable and hopefully they take would care of business. Eric giving up on a jointer after five years is fine, but it did last five years (and it does seem the motor probably needs replaced.) Is five years for $1100 on a new machine a good deal or a bad deal? I suppose that depends on your usage and your expectations. If I buy a Grizzly for $1000, knowing how much more a nice PM model costs - I'm hoping for over five years but not counting on it. Not only that, but I recall seeing at least one other Grizzly product in Eric's garage that he hasn't had to toss out a window. How many others are there that I don't remember? Despite Eric's words of people not learning from their mistakes - the evidence on the interwebs as a whole seems to be positive. Tons of people are very very satisfied and think it's a great deal. So does a nooblet woodworker learn their lesson from 2 guys on a forum that got duds or the general consensus? More importantly, do you wait however long it takes to save up 3x more to buy the best? When you are in that phase where you literally cannot do quality work without something to get you by? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, Cliff said: Fortunately there are hundreds of people that are completely satisfied with their Griz purchases. For every failure within 1 year, there are probably 10 that last 15 years. There is absolutely no way of knowing if this is even remotely true. 20 minutes ago, Cliff said: Despite Eric's words of people not learning from their mistakes - the evidence on the interwebs as a whole seems to be positive. Tons of people are very very satisfied and think it's a great deal. Do you have blinders on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yeah I too wonder where those stats come from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Just now, Immortan D said: Yeah I too wonder where those stats come from... They aren't statistics. Statistics have data collected, studied, and interpreted. Those statements are just conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capwn Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 <insert Michael Jackson 'I'm just here for the comments' picture here> In all seriousness though, Grizzly makes budget-to-mid grade stuff. It does suck that the unit experienced catastrophic (and dangerous) failure. So far Eric and Brendon have experienced failures in their products - and if I were in their shoes, I probably wouldn't be purchasing their brand, either. Personal experience and emotion often trump anecdotal statistics. If I had a Powermatic machine eat it in a year, I probably wouldn't purchase that brand again because, "I bought Powermatic because I shouldn't have to worry about crap like this" regardless of their sterling reputation. Cliff is right in some regards - each company has an expected mean-time-between-failure or failure rate, and we are dealing with a small sample rate. However, I would "educated guess" that Powermatic's failure rate is a lot lower than Grizzly's, but that comes with an increase cost in price. So, BT is sharing his personal experience, albeit a negative one. He hasn't said that nobody should purchase a Grizzly tool. He has only stated that his negative experience with this tool precludes him from further purchases with that company. Which is a pretty reasonable statement that could apply to any brand - it is just that you will likely hear that more often in regards to certain tools or certain brands. For example, based upon a Black and Decker ROS literally exploding, I will never be purchasing a B&D product - that is a personal choice based upon my experience and not based on statistical averages. I would be hustling Grizzly customer service to send me an upgraded unit for my time, the dangerous way it failed, and the constant stream of issues experienced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The only conclusion I draw from all of this is something I already knew: If you buy cheap machines, then stick to the basics when using them. Do not try their limits because you certainly are going to reach them in no time... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm on with Griz customer service now. They want Me to disassemble the saw, pack it on pallets, and return it for service. Otherwise, they will send the parts and have me do the work to repair it. Nobody could answer if me doing the work voids existing warranties since it says you cannot work on your own tool. They will then assess it and repair what is needed then send it back if it is deemed satisfactory I've got 1 month left on the warranty, I'd be willing to bet by the time I get it back, it will be out of warranty and off of their plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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