Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I feel like a shoulder plane would help me out as I have trouble keeping things flat and square with a chisel on shoulders. So.. first question - Large or medium? Second - LV or LN? I think either LN or LV I'll be happy but I'm interested in hearing if there is anything someone likes about one and not the other. I'm having trouble thinking of any situation where I'd need larger than the 13/16" that the LV medium plane offers. Yes, on cheeks that might be longer, but thats going to be rare I would think. I saw some other people on LumberJocks that you want the large because it has more mass. Do you find this to be true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have the LN medium and I like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have a couple of Records that I bought new. The large one gets the most use by me. It's the Record 073 that the LN is based on. My one complaint with it is that shavings load up in it. If the LV one curls shavings out one side, that would be the one I'd get, but I haven't looked at them. My favorite ones are old wooden ones that do curl shavings out of one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have an old Stanley 92 and I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have Veritas both medium and large. I use the large at least 75% of the time. More mass, more capacity, more comfortable in the hand. More versatile tool. More expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Eric. said: I have Veritas both medium and large. I use the large at least 75% of the time. More mass, more capacity, more comfortable in the hand. More versatile tool. More expensive. I look at it and think.. cost shouldn't be a factor at only $35 more. I just know that if I buy one now, it's unlikely I will buy a second anytime soon so I don't want to go with a medium then wish I had a large. I'm making this decision in about 10 minutes. And buying. My LV cart is open and full of stuff and requires submission to make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 LN also recommends getting their large first, at their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just now, Immortan D said: LN also recommends getting their large first, at their website. The LN looks very uncomfortable to use. You don't have an issue? I really wish there was somewhere nearby that I could try both and see how they feel. I prefer LN but ONLY because my only other plane is a LN. Silly reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 For me it isn't uncomfortable, not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Thanks for the input guys. Without testing both by hand I had to go with my instinct on LV looking more comfortable. Went with large because I'm guessing that dados would be the only real reason I'd want a medium over a large and I will try to get a router plane for that sometime soon. I didn't want to overthink it either. Expensive day. Wrynn filter, 55g fiber drum, super dust deputy, shoulder plane and about $300 in other misc nonsense. If i didn't have to replace all four tires on my car I'd have been even more insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 31 minutes ago, Cliff said: Thanks for the input guys. Without testing both by hand I had to go with my instinct on LV looking more comfortable. Went with large because I'm guessing that dados would be the only real reason I'd want a medium over a large and I will try to get a router plane for that sometime soon. I didn't want to overthink it either. Expensive day. Wrynn filter, 55g fiber drum, super dust deputy, shoulder plane and about $300 in other misc nonsense. If i didn't have to replace all four tires on my car I'd have been even more insane. Tires can wait just be more careful in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 That's a great plan! I drive 100 miles/day, which is a lot, but not like.. A LOT. But enough I want to be secure. they just hit 3/32, 71,000 miles. $1000 to replace all four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think BCTW makes a nice one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 27 minutes ago, Cliff said: That's a great plan! I drive 100 miles/day, which is a lot, but not like.. A LOT. But enough I want to be secure. they just hit 3/32, 71,000 miles. $1000 to replace all four. Find cheaper tires? $250 a tire is STEEP!! What are you buying 19" track tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 they are Bridgestone Driveguard 225/45R18's with the run-flat and low rolling resistance. Honestly the cheapest price I could find online was $741, then $68 s/h, and $100 total to put them on - that works out to $1 less than the place my father in law recommended. I'm confused beyond belief at this as well. When I replaced the tires on my Mitsubishi Eclipse 6 years ago I bought the tires for $75 each and paid $200 to have them put on. That was a sports car. This is just a 2013 Chevy Cruze. I think tire prices exploded. I did see some sub $100 tires but they were brand names I've never heard of and that concerns me. I want these tires to last another 70k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've got the large LV plane. It's comfortable and the ability to adjust and relocation the knobs makes it more versatile. It seems a lot of people prefer LV joinery planes over LN, at least that's my observation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Cliff said: This is just a 2013 Chevy Cruze. I think tire prices exploded. Cruze, thats electric right? Batteries? Batteries weigh a lot and that might require your car to have a duty rated tire. Also if the tire is a low profile design those are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chet K. said: Cruze, thats electric right? Batteries? Batteries weigh a lot and that might require your car to have a duty rated tire. Also if the tire is a low profile design those are expensive. Not electric. I'm a bit of an idiot, I bought the most fuel efficient car I could afford and still go upside down on my loan (had to trade my suv in cause $550/month in gas was killing me, when I bought it I worked at home) by 5k - but also had onstar. Silly requirement right? I like starting my car with my phone. #1 feature for me. So I didn't end up with electric, just the 4 cylinder Cruze. It's got an "eco" engine in it I think. But the rest of the car is not lightened like the eco model is. Tire could be low profile design, I'm not familiar with that. I just learned what the "95W" means on the tires! When this thing is paid off - Tesla or bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I would guess that if you have 18 inch rims on a small car like your Cruze that you have low profile tires. Low profile are the tires with a lower sidewall then traditional tires. I am guessing they are more expensive because there has to be some sort of design element that makes them strong enough even though there is less rubber. Putting Michelin tires on my full size truck, I am out the door at about $1100. Put tires on our 2013 Ford Escape (Low profile but smaller) and it will be about $1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Chet K. said: I would guess that if you have 18 inch rims on a small car like your Cruze that you have low profile tires. Low profile are the tires with a lower sidewall then traditional tires. I am guessing they are more expensive because there has to be some sort of design element that makes them strong enough even though there is less rubber. Putting Michelin tires on my full size truck, I am out the door at about $1100. Put tires on our 2013 Ford Escape (Low profile but smaller) and it will be about $1500 HOLY SMOKES!!! that's a lot for tires. The low profile tires on my Subaru are like $113 each for a performance tire to boot. I just picked a pair up for my pickup this fall that were $85 each mounted and out the door. I guess i take for granted my old vehicles being cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Cliff said: they are Bridgestone Driveguard 225/45R18's with the run-flat and low rolling resistance. Honestly the cheapest price I could find online was $741, then $68 s/h, and $100 total to put them on - that works out to $1 less than the place my father in law recommended. TireRack.com has them for $709. I've bought from Tire Rack many times - always been happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 They were $741 when I did it this morning. And I just looked and you are right. Wow. Oh well. Just my luck they'd drop hours after I ordered them elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Got the plane in the mail today. Will make an excellent weapon in event of an attack. Weighs much more than I thought it would. Too bad I had a stupid job interview and couldn't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Cliff said: Got the plane in the mail today. Will make an excellent weapon in event of an attack. Weighs much more than I thought it would. Too bad I had a stupid job interview and couldn't use it. Congrats on the new toy. Hope the interview went well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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