Sac Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Should I be the one that says it?.... Go get a Festool 1400 and a track.. no drift there! Drink the Koolaid!! Just kidding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Should I be the one that says it?.... Go get a Festool 1400 and a track.. no drift there! Drink the Koolaid!! Just kidding. Well, go to your local polling place and vote in a way that results in teachers being paid enough to afford one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdabroxx Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Denette said: Well, go to your local polling place and vote in a way that results in teachers being paid enough to afford one! I will when ya'll start working 12 months a year. LOL Says the starving draftsman... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I will when ya'll start working 12 months a year. LOL Says the starving draftsman... Man, we work 12 months worth in 9 months. But anyway, the frame of the project is starting to come together! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well, mostly success. The framework for the cubbies is in, and fit into place square and snug, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to apply clamping pressure to the middle of the base. Here's a picture of the problem area, followed by a close-up. I tried about five different ways to get a scrapwood-and-clamp caul across to get some pressure on that spot, but it is just too far in. The clamps are far enough apart that I can't hold one in place to get the other side of the caul together, and even if I could get the caul set up the span is so great that the caul would just bend rather than the plywood settling into place. It's not the most serious problem in the world, because even with that little gap this thing will still be built like a tank, but I'd rather it be just right. I'm open to suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 The caul needs to be stronger than the plywood for it to work...what material were you using for cauls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 The caul needs to be stronger than the plywood for it to work...what material were you using for cauls? Well, I have a few different things - some ash, some poplar, some oak - but I never really even got to that point because I wasn't able to get to the point where I could apply pressure. I can't hold two parallel clamps up in the air on two sides of the board and also simultaneously put the cauls into place, and also simultaneously tighten the two clamps while I'm holding them and the cauls in place. I'm probably just going about it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Here's something to watch, I linked to it at the right time in the video...note that he's only using one caul underneath, because using one on top wouldn't really do anything to the horizontal panel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Here's something to watch, I linked to it at the right time in the video...note that he's only using one caul underneath, because using one on top wouldn't really do anything to the horizontal panel: Thanks for the video! I will try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well, I took the Tim Allen approach this time, and it worked out pretty well. WWGOA guy says "use a scrap wood caul." I say, "Hmm, 4" wide 8/4 oak ought to do it." WWGOA guy says "Tape a couple of playing cards to apply pressure in only the needed area." I say, "Hmm, a 3/4" thick scrap of ash ought to do it." I think my Jorgensens saw their lives flash before their eyes. I think I might have put enough pressure on it. Maybe. How many pounds does it take to get about half an inch of deflection in 4 inches of 8/4 oak over a 3 foot span? But hey, can't argue with success! Before: After: And as far as I can tell my solution didn't undo any other work elsewhere. I'm leaving it with clamps and glue and hoping for the best when I remove everything. The dadoes were a piston fit before the glue, so hopefully if the glue doesn't hold it in place the friction will. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 On my large PC router the round baseplate is offset 1 /32 on one side. So if you route using a straightedge you can make a follow up pass which removes 1 /32 and gives you a much cleaner cut. Making test cuts & careful set up are nessasary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, wdwerker said: On my large PC router the round baseplate is offset 1 /32 on one side. So if you route using a straightedge you can make a follow up pass which removes 1 /32 and gives you a much cleaner cut. Making test cuts & careful set up are nessasary. Now that's a nice feature! Mine seems to be offset 1", which seems like an odd feature. I can't think of when having that 1" difference would be particularly handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 A little more progress this morning! I got the other large panel onto the first bed, and things straightened out a lot once it was in place. Everything was bit wobbly without it. I've learned a good bit on the first one. Hopefully, Lord willing, the second one will go much more smoothly and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looking good. Love the Jorgy clamps. Its a shame that they closed up shop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Sac said: Looking good. Love the Jorgy clamps. Its a shame that they closed up shop. I know, right? Their clamps are pretty great. And I love orange, so there's that. I got the first base cabinet assembled just about an hour ago, and gave it a little strength test: The second frame is going together MUCH more easily than the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I done see that going anywhere. Nice work also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 hours ago, mat60 said: I done see that going anywhere. Nice work also. Bet you meant don't see, unless you talk like some of the hillbillies here in Houston On December 21, 2016 at 2:34 PM, JosephThomas said: Here's something to watch, I linked to it at the right time in the video...note that he's only using one caul underneath, because using one on top wouldn't really do anything to the horizontal panel: Joseph, how do you put just a portion of a video in? Can it be done on an iPad? PM me when you get a chance so as not to hj this. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, K Cooper said: Bet you meant don't see, unless talk like some of the hillbillies here in Houston Lol..Yes I cant see very good anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 https://vimeo.com/196889875 The cabinets are done! I'm working on milking the poplar for the face frame this afternoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Moving along. Your stick figure helper is lazy. Good help is hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 The trim pieces are almost ready to go. I cut to rough length (using the stacked bed-cabinets for a work surface because, well, why not?) and jointed one face and edge, then after lunch I planed to thickness and ripped to appropriate width going by my cut diagram I drew up in Sketchup. I've had a lot of time to scope out this project, so it's moving along pretty quickly! Tomorrow through Monday progress will be slow-to-nonexistent because of Christmas, but on Tuesday I'll be back kicking butt and taking names. My plans and the boards prior to working them at all: The end result as of 8:30 pm: Trim boards are on the table saw, on top of the beds, on the floor to the left of the saw - it's a lot of pieces. None are cut to length yet, but I'm getting pretty close! Also, while I was planing the boards for the bed, I couldn't resist milling up just one board of the 8/4 ash I got for my Roubo, which I'll work on as soon as this project is finished. It's so pretty! It's so heavy! And milled from the jointer to the planer, the final thickness is 1 ⅞"! I measured the rest of the rough ash boards and I think they're closer to 9/4. I'm excited. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elroy Skimms Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Looking good! I was going to ask if you had planned on finishing the cabinet insides before putting the top panel on, but it looks like I missed the boat on that one. I find spraying inside boxes like that gets a little messy in the back corners. -E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Moving right along and looking good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Looking good! I was going to ask if you had planned on finishing the cabinet insides before putting the top panel on, but it looks like I missed the boat on that one. I find spraying inside boxes like that gets a little messy in the back corners. -E I probably would have, but my client hasn't gotten back to me on a paint color yet. Oh well. Got some more done today - the headboards are coming together! They're going together with glue and brads, and clamps while drying. I've never felt more like Norm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denette Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Today's work was mainly on the headboards. Things went smoothly, though I had to call an audible on the thickness of the trim on the headboard interior. It looked too chunky and fat at full thickness, and it would also have been a nightmare to get it perfectly flush. I planed it down to a little under half an inch and it looks pretty good! I didn't measure the long board and instead scribed it and cut it to fit. I got to use my stocking stuffer, the Veritas scribing knife, and that little dude is nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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