justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Guy at our church has a lot of old hand tools he's selling off. A lot of them he hasn't even used, just collected them up over the years. He has an older stanley no 8. Has the box but its not in good shape due to storage. It has been used but looks like it has most of the blade left. No cracks in the wood from what I see. Light rust on the blade so it hard to read the words and the sole defiantly needs to be smoothed. Been in storage for awile. Several questions as Im still really brand new to planes. Is a smoothing plane and and jointing plane the same as thats the descriptions on eBay? Would this one be a good one to have around? Whats a good price? He want to get little out of it but stilI sell it at a good price. I did some planing with it and it seems to be fully functional just needs alittle tlc. If it help the blade says it was made in new britain conn and it says Stanley and under that it says Rull-----vell Co I think. All the spaces are cause I can't read it till getting more rust off the blade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSouthWoodCraft Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I usually use the site below as a good reference or starting point when it comes to vintage Stanley planes. There are other sites out there but I like this one since I know the area where it is based out of. Virginiatoolworks.com That being said I don't have much information about actual cash value like some of the other guys on here because most of mine have been found for under 50 bucks. As far as it being of value (physical value not cash value) if all of the pieces and parts are there and the rust is not to the point of pitting then it will definitely be of value to a woodworker. There are major differences between plane styles and lengths as to what their purpose is. IE a block plane is for small finesse type of work such as a chamfer. While a jack plane can be used to smooth small areas or remove lots of material from a piece if you have the patience. With a long bodied jointer plane is used to make jointing faces nice and flush prior to a glue up. I hope this helps you out. Post some pictures of what he has available. There might be some rusty good hidden amoungst all the dust. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Helps some. A jack plane or scrub plane is what I really want eventually but thought I might pick this up if its a good deal. Its a bailey if that matters. I thought all of the older no 8 were bailey but then I thought I might be wrong. He said he's asking 40.00 but thats off the top of his head and he would take less. Will take pics if I can. Might not be tonight. Its at my house so I could research it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 A Working complete #8 is worth the $40 he wants for it. If you are into that world and don't have a jointer plane, what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just entering the world of hand tools. I think I like both electric and hand tools just depends on my mood. Wood working is just a hobby for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Buy it. Buy it now. See if he has something in tbe #4 or #5 range, if you want a jack plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Its just a hobby for almost all of us. In my opinion, unless you plan to mill stock by hand, a jointer plane is a nice shop decoration and wont likely get much use. Definitely not essential in a hybrid shop. In good condition it is probably worth $150 on eBay though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Ive been cleaning up old reclaimed wood. He has a bunch of stuff like saws axes and such. He's cleaning out his basement and garage for a sale on thur. So far the only other planer he's found is a fulion which I understand to have been a cheaper one. Without getting a tape out Id say it 8 1/2 -9" long and I can only get 3 fingers on it. I find it uncomfortable to hold. My knuckle hits the blade height adjustment screw. He said he's got a lot more to go through. He didn't really use this stuff just like old tools when he saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, wtnhighlander said: Buy it. Buy it now. See if he has something in tbe #4 or #5 range, if you want a jack plane. A number 4 is what I have been looking at. I don't know enough about them to pick out a good one from pics on eBay. I don't mind cleaning one up but I don't want to mess with cracked handles unless there is a place you can buy them cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Skip a restoration for a smoother and pony up for a Veritas or LN...IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, bleedinblue said: Skip a restoration for a smoother and pony up for a Veritas or LN...IMHO. Ill be honest I was looking at woodrivers and I think there is a LN scrub both in the 150.00 range I have thought about and that price might be doable for one in a month or so. If a no 8 isn't going to be used a lot Id rather be in that 40.00 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I have the Woodriver smoother, I couldn't resist the price either. It was easy to get super sharp and the sole was flat...I am having problems getting a proper camber on the blade to eliminate track marks, but that's on me and not the plane. In short, WR is a decent alternative...though I will still probably upgrade to a LN at some point soon. Again, I woudnt touch a scrub plane unless I was 100% sure I was going to use it. Most go unused I'd bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Those $10 Windsor #33 planes that Harbor Freight sells make pretty good scrubbers. Unless you are going hard-core hand tool only, I wouldn't invest much into a scrub plane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 After about 10 minutes of using a #8 you'll wish that you were smart enough to buy a motorized jointer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 A No.8 is a nice plane if you need it. If you need to edge joint work by hand it could be useful. Although a sales motivated post, this blog entry describes a good way to view the No.8 http://workshopheaven.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-no8-jointer-plane.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjongsma Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 15 hours ago, justforfun said: Without getting a tape out Id say it 8 1/2 -9" long and I can only get 3 fingers on it. I find it uncomfortable to hold. My knuckle hits the blade height adjustment screw. a #4 plane is only intended to have 3 fingers around the tote. The index finger should be pointing forward and resting next to the blade or on the adjuster. For example: https://woodandshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DSC4874-wood-and-shop-1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 This Scrub plane has seen some use. I bought it new. Weathering is from sweat. Wear at the mouth is from use. I do own a no. 8, but it's seen little use. I bought it because I didn't have one, and it was only 75 bucks in almost new condition, even though it was 100 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Hey all ty for the replies. Read the thread hayden and it was helpful. Probably going to buy it. I realize I might not use it a lot. I think I will enjoy trying to restore it though as it doesnt need a ton of work. Another reason is, and I didn't want emotion to affect anyones answer but the reason he's clearing out everything is he's older and has cancer with less than a year left and he's clearing out his stuff so his wife won't have to. So Ill probably end up picking up another tool or two I don't need but the thread was informative for me. I heard white vinegar and soaking for a couple days will make the majority of rust fall right off and ready for finer cleaning. Will the vinegar hurt any of the moving parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 hours ago, G S Haydon said: A No.8 is a nice plane if you need it. If you need to edge joint work by hand it could be useful. Although a sales motivated post, this blog entry describes a good way to view the No.8 http://workshopheaven.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-no8-jointer-plane.html Welcome back Graham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, justforfun said: Will the vinegar hurt any of the moving parts? Yes. Vinegar is acid and will strip some alloys. The casting can suffer. Limit your soak to a few hours and neutralize with baking soda at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yes. Vinegar is acid and will strip some alloys. The casting can suffer. Limit your soak to a few hours and neutralize with baking soda at the end. And dis-assemble everything before dunking it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 The safest option is to go with evaporust. It's a little more expensive, but I think it's worth it. It can't hurt the plane parts, and it's reusable a few times. It dissolves rust, but not good steel or cast iron (like vinegar will if you leave it too long). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justforfun Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 K. I ditched the vinegar idea. Trying to decide between shiny new look or leaving patina. I took the lever cap, oil and wet and dry sand paper and started with 100 grit for about 10-15 strokes then 220 and 400 and it looks pretty clean with the old look intact. Defiantly the faster route. Going to take time to get a polish on it but this didn't take to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 21 hours ago, RichardA said: Welcome back Graham. Thanks, Richard. Glad to contribute again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I have to say for some reason the No. 8 Stanley is my favorite next to all my vintage Stanley block planes. If you can get it for 40.00 like I seen above jump on it!! There's plenty of YouTube videos to teach you to restore them to better than new. Every woodworker needs a jointer plane so jump on it! IMO No. 8 is better than a No. 7. I'm a huge Stanley fan (vintage Stanley) Good luck hope you get it and enjoy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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