pkinneb Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 9:05 AM, Chestnut said: Hum interesting i recently read that article from Mr. Boggs and he mentioned bark powder tea to get an even result. I was thinking of this for a future project myself. (I didn't watch the video but read an article https://www.popularwoodworking.com/finishing/ebonizing_wood/) The bark powder isn't expensive I thought about grabbing some. https://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/BKT2-P3850.aspx#:~:text=This Bark Tan %26 Dye (Quebracho,natural leather dye like Quebracho. I feel like 2 lbs is a lot I'd split it with ya if you were interested Paul. Drew Its already on the way and once it arrives I will put some in a container and drop it by your place. No way I would ever use all that when it only takes a teaspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted February 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Knocked out my steam box today just need to find a latch although I'm thinking I may just go with screws and rubber bands... Now to find some non kiln dried walnut with MC in the 12-15% range 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted March 2, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Ended up going with these stainless lock clasps @ $9 they were cheap and should be easy to work with gloves on. These boxes actually get pretty hot. On another note the ebonizing mixture is coming along nicely. This week end I will strain it and try it out on some Walnut, Red Oak, White Oak, and ash so see how it looks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted March 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Made more progress on testing the ebonizing method over the weekend, first I mixed up the bark tan adding a heaping table spoon into about 1" of hot water and mixing then I added the remainder of the pint of hot water and mix further According to the article this will last for months Then I strained the mixture from the vinegar and steel wool (after 10ish days) through a coffee strainer. This took forever so I used a spray can to hold the strainer Once strained Boggs advises to try a piece (this is read oak) It appeared to work so I milled up some scrap to try the whole ebonizing process on (white oak, red oak, ash, & walnut) I sanded the samples from 120 through 320 raising the grain twice Then applied the mixtures first the bark tan and once it no longer looks wet the vinegar mixture: Here is how they came out I just need to decide on a finish for the top coat now. I will be making 4-6 bar stools plus 2 pool table spectator chairs which is why I used the various woods. Since I will be ebonizing all of these if I can use a cheaper wood I will as long as I can achieve the desired result. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 I expected the oak and walnut to go really dark, but the ash surprises me. That bark tea must really add a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Was there a portion of the ash that got the iron acetate applied without the bark tan? Man that walnut turned jet black... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 7:22 AM, Chestnut said: Was there a portion of the ash that got the iron acetate applied without the bark tan? Man that walnut turned jet black... No but I think I will do the bottom bare section without the bark tan as that would be interesting to see and if I need the bare color I can look at the back LOL...more to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 @pkinneb, when will you be building the bar stools and pool chairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 9:01 PM, Coop said: @pkinneb, when will you be building the bar stools and pool chairs? Probably not until late summer. I am finishing up my router table top redu, need to finish this chair, and I have an outdoor project that will be done next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I am just catching up with this. Do you treat the inside of the steam box in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/23/2022 at 11:56 AM, Chet said: I am just catching up with this. Do you treat the inside of the steam box in any way? No just a couple holes in the bottom for moisture to escape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noviceneil Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 So I found this while googling the #1 chair. I took the class and am in a few of your pictures (think beer shirts). I am struggling a bit with the seat cushion, trying to find the materials and figuring out how to use the bowing jig to prevent wrinkles as Michael didn't cover this in as much detail as I need. I ended up using India ink for the ebonizing and it worked well. Made a steam box and did locate some air dried walnut. Have to make the bending forms. Do you remeber if the legs start out as 5/4 or 6/4? Have really enjoyed reliving the class through your posts. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 @noviceneil, welcome to the forum (although we can tell from your posts that you're more than a "novice" ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/13/2022 at 12:20 PM, noviceneil said: So I found this while googling the #1 chair. I took the class and am in a few of your pictures (think beer shirts). I am struggling a bit with the seat cushion, trying to find the materials and figuring out how to use the bowing jig to prevent wrinkles as Michael didn't cover this in as much detail as I need. I ended up using India ink for the ebonizing and it worked well. Made a steam box and did locate some air dried walnut. Have to make the bending forms. Do you remeber if the legs start out as 5/4 or 6/4? Have really enjoyed reliving the class through your posts. Neil Hey Neil welcome to the forum! I show the legs would be 8/4 as the final blank size should be 1 5/8" x 1 3/4", FWIW I am getting this out of the class handout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noviceneil Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 ouch, my source of air dried walnut may have just dried up. Thanks for the info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noviceneil Posted April 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Noviceneil was my original screen name when I joined Knots at FWW. I really was a novice then. I have learned quite a bit since then but when I see some of the stuff that other woodworkers do, I often feel than I am still a novice.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted November 21, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Wow its been a minute!! Anyways back at this project. First task was to make some clamp cauls for the upper chair glue up. Just using chunks of a 2x4, the bandsaw, and hand tools to get the shapes I need Then a dry run. While not as complex as the bottom there is still a lot going on here. Then the real deal...needed a few addl clamps to keep things from moving around but all went without a hitch. This morning I removed the clamps and was happy to see nice tight joints Time to do the final rough shaping. Here are the tools of choice; a die grinder and lots of rasps, riflers, scrapers, etc. The gun stock vise came in handy as well Lets get to it Right side done, now the hard part trying to match the left And with that the construction and major shaping is complete Next I need to keep working on the final shaping, then comes the surface prep for finish. I also need to fill a couple small knots with epoxy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Man this chair is looking awesome. I'm also jealous of the gun stock vise. I've been thinking more and more about making a custom stock for one of my rifles with material from tree's I've milled myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 11:01 AM, Chestnut said: Man this chair is looking awesome. I'm also jealous of the gun stock vise. I've been thinking more and more about making a custom stock for one of my rifles with material from tree's I've milled myself. Watch for sales they come up quite often I think I got mine for about $100 at Woodcraft. Both it and my pattern makers vise have come in handy on this project and being on the adjustable bench is nice as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Looking good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 That looks like it was a fun project to build. One that maybe came close to using every tool in the shop. I am not sure I would be looking forward to all the final sanding though, in fact I know I wouldn't. But a necessary evil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Mr. Fortune will be proud! That’s very nice! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 I'm more than impressed. Are you going to make a companion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 That would be like taking on a second wife when the first one was perfect. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 7:36 PM, Mark J said: I'm more than impressed. Are you going to make a companion? Thanks! That's the plan. I need to source some air dried walnut first though. I also have several other projects I need to knock out. It's been a really busy year at work so I am waaay behind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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