chrisb Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 My big woodworking purchase this year is a shed. My workshop is currently a single bay of a three bay garage and in addition to my woodworking equipment it also stores yardwork equipment and my kids outdoor toys. Looking around the internet, there seems to be a wide range to choose from. In my area, I have choices from the big home stores, costco, and tuff shed. I am currently looking for a 8 x 10 shed. Does anyone have any recommendations? I realize that I could get plans and build it myself, but I just don't have the time. Thanks, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I know you said you didn't want to build but 8x10 will take you a weekend to build. I've built 2 from these plans and the 8x12 gable was very simple. The 12x16 barn I have now was some more work but still not bad. When I was pricing building it yourself was about 67% less than buying a Tuff Shed. http://backyard3.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I built my shed from scratch without plans in a month of Sundays. I probably didn't save any money over buying a kit but you end up with a much more robust building that will last longer. Building and setting the trusses was the most challenging part but I knocked that out in an afternoon. My only advice...build or buy the biggest one your property and budget can handle...they fill up fast. I built an 8x10 and I wish it was twice as big. Damn thing is full already...of lumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Chris, from research I have done on local suppliers, be prepared to pay dearly for a shed of any quality. Akso, most that I have seen are very light duty. I'm talking about 2x6 floor joists, wall framing on 24" centers, and roofs that rely on the osb decking to hold them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, estesbubba said: I know you said you didn't want to build but 8x10 will take you a weekend to build. I've built 2 from these plans and the 8x12 gable was very simple. The 12x16 barn I have now was some more work but still not bad. When I was pricing building it yourself was about 67% less than buying a Tuff Shed. http://backyard3.com/ here's another good example of a backyard shed build: http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/146566-Build-to-Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even..... (reposting this from ages ago - I found it on WTO when I was going through the archive of old shop threads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I too built mine (8 x 12) in a weekend without plans. My total cost was about 400 dollars and that included a metal roof and hardi-plank siding.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Roger Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I assume you want a shed for the garden tools and toys not a work shop. In my opinion an 8 x 10 building isn't very large as no matter what, it will fill up fast! I bought a pre-fab barn a few years ago and it is 10 x12 and has an attic of sorts for wood storage. We don't have any children's toys to deal with, just garden tools, two mowers(a push and a rider) a snow blower, step and extension ladders, wood storage and various other items that are not used often. IT IS FULL! An old adage is "No matter how big the room is, in a year you will wish it was larger". I find this to be VERY true. I recommend that weather you buy a shed or build one, make it as big as you can within your budget. Spending money on something like this is never easy but, it is cheaper than buying twice because the first one didn't work for your needs or fell apart because it wasn't built well enough. Taken June 2009 Rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Are you wanting the shed to store the other than woodworking stuff or to move your shop into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I built my shed in a weekend, and then did the doors and painted it the following Saturday. The issue I have with the "Tupperware" sheds is that they have no framing, so you there are no "studs" to hang anything off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Are you wanting the shed to store the other than woodworking stuff or to move your shop into? The shed is for non-woodworking stuff. It will most likely store my lawnmower, bikes, gardening supples (dirt, shovels, etc) and maybe a little wood. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I built a 8 by 12 for my wifes garden shed..It needs siding some time and a nice set of steps this spring..I have 5oo dollars in it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Here's a picture of 12x16 built from the plans I listed above. It uses 4x4 treated skids that sit on top of cinder blocks. I store my zero turn mower and other yard stuff in it and this thing is solid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Roger Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 One other thing that I would mention.....Square footage.....Of course an 8 x 10 = 80 sq. ft., 10 x 12 = 120 sq. ft. and like Mikes 12 x 16 = 192 sq. ft. BUT, there are also vertical needs to consider. It is easier to put up shelves or hang shovels on a wooden wall than to build a rack or table in a plastic/vinyl shed and that is something to think about also. Rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 FWIW, I vote buy a shed. As usual the crowd here magically assumes anyone is capable of building one. Build or buy, the biggest pain is getting permits, inspections, etc depending on where you live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Vyrolan said: FWIW, I vote buy a shed. As usual the crowd here magically assumes anyone is capable of building one. Build or buy, the biggest pain is getting permits, inspections, etc depending on where you live. If you can build a hardwood picture frame you can build a shed using plans. Now dealing with the county can always be a crapshoot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 hours ago, estesbubba said: If you can build a hardwood picture frame you can build a shed using plans. Now dealing with the county can always be a crapshoot... What's the base for those shed plans you linked? Regardless, I doubt my wife wants to wait a year for it to be finished... Also the materials for a picture frame fit in my small car unlike those for a shed. It would probably take me weeks just to get all the materials moved to the backyard...LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Most lumber yards will deliver material free if you order it all from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 On 1/10/2016 at 10:12 AM, wtnhighlander said: Also, most that I have seen are very light duty. I'm talking about 2x6 floor joists, wall framing on 24" centers, and roofs that rely on the osb decking to hold them together. Almost every plan I've seen including the ones Mike linked are roughly those characteristics. What would it need to be to be a "good" shed? If I'm going to build the thing, I want it to be worth a damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 If you don't need portability, I would go with 2x10 joists on 16" centers, 3/4" plywood subfloor, 2x4 walls on 16" centers (2x6 if it gets cold there), and actual trusses for the roof. I built one like that, except with 2x8 joists, 8' x 12', and it's all good, except the floor sags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 13 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: If you don't need portability, I would go with 2x10 joists on 16" centers, 3/4" plywood subfloor, 2x4 walls on 16" centers (2x6 if it gets cold there), and actual trusses for the roof. I built one like that, except with 2x8 joists, 8' x 12', and it's all good, except the floor sags. What's the tipping point for 2x4 walls vs 2x6 walls? Obviously up here we get super cold and plenty of snow. I'd be doing a barn-style shed with a gambrel roof. I'm planning a pretty decent size (12' wide by 16' long)...2x10s in the floor and 2x6s for all the rest of the framing seems advisable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The extra 2" of insulation can make a big difference. Winters here are mild in comparison, we usually have no more than a few days where the high temp stays below freezing. My parent's house has 2x6 walls, with plywood panelling. My house has 2x4 walls with drywall. Their's stays a good bit warmer, until Dad had bypass surgery last year, they heated with a wood stove, almost exclusively. He wasn't able to cut much wood this season, so they are depending more on the propane central unit. Of course, the OP is just storing stuff, not working in the shed. 2x4 walls should be fine, in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 58 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: Of course, the OP is just storing stuff, not working in the shed. 2x4 walls should be fine, in that case. That's my situation too...purely for storage...yard/pool equipment, riding mower, snow blower, etc, etc...loft for wood storage. But I don't want a big snow to cave the thing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Thanks everyone for the info. I will still probably buy instead of build, but now I have some good information to look for when determining the quality. Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 On January 15, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Vyrolan said: That's my situation too...purely for storage...yard/pool equipment, riding mower, snow blower, etc, etc...loft for wood storage. But I don't want a big snow to cave the thing in. Not very likely with the pitch of a typical shed roof. 2x4 wall framing would be fine. If your storing a lot of wood in the loft you can consider going 12" on center for your loft joists, but I don't think you'd need that kind of weight rating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted January 18, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 My wife wanted me to build her a "craft building" and I considered buyng a prefabbed building, but decided to build one to her/our liking. I had the slab poured in May of last year and finished it, cabinets and all by July. During the framing, we got the ridge board up and it looked like a perfect photo op... looked just like a gallows 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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