Popular Post Just Bob Posted October 22, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 This is next up on the honey do. Nothing too exciting, just a bunch of plywood with some cherry stuck to it. This is for my wife's quilt room, which also doubles as a spare bedroom. It has the typical stupid closet with a 5' opening with wasted space on both sides. I am eliminating the closet and making a built-in that she helped design to fit her storage needs. So here is the basic plan, a 96"x82"x24" (ish) unit with places to store an ironing board, her embroidery unit, 2 of 3 sewing machines, 8 drawers, 8 full extension trays, a lighted/powered small work area, and various shelves. Drawers and trays will be made with half blind dovetails, doors will be cope and stick raised panel. The doors and drawers are inset. I start deconstruction on the closet on Monday. I am going to have pre-finish all of the parts and do the glue up in the room. The pocket door hardware, tray slides, and probably the drawer runners will have to pre-installed prior to glue up. This is my first time with sketchup, and I suck at it, but here are some drawings of the plan. This just might be a goat rope. The closet carcass Drawers and trays and doors Picked up some cherry ply, cherry and poplar to get this started. Had to bring the poplar home in during a monsoon, got it dried out over night. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Looking forward to following along Bob.. The Sketchup drawings look pretty good to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Ya. This will a great build to follow Bob. There is alto of work in this project and I bet your wife will be real happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wdwerker Posted October 22, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Measure your plywood and hardware with a pair of calipers. Tiny differences from the assumed size and the actual size can add up quickly. Lots of plywood is well under the stated thickness. Ball bearing side mount drawer slides behave best if you allow between 1 1/32 to 1 1/16 between the opening and the drawer width. It is far easier to shim or bend the tabs on the case part of the slide to get a perfect fit. If you are using concealed cup type euro hinges measure in millimeters because accurate mounting of the baseplates is crucial. I like the design you have come up with ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 This looks to be an awesome build just can't let me wife see it She has been asking for something like this for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 40 minutes ago, wdwerker said: Measure your plywood and hardware with a pair of calipers. Tiny differences from the assumed size and the actual size can add up quickly. Lots of plywood is well under the stated thickness. Ball bearing side mount drawer slides behave best if you allow between 1 1/32 to 1 1/16 between the opening and the drawer width. It is far easier to shim or bend the tabs on the case part of the slide to get a perfect fit. If you are using concealed cup type euro hinges measure in millimeters because accurate mounting of the baseplates is crucial. I like the design you have come up with ! Yea that is one of my many "dreads" with this, and being an old imperial guy I am struggling. The only place I am using ball bearing side mounts is on the trays, the drawers slides are wood. I really appreciate the advise, I used a combo square to measure the ply, I never would have thought of calipers. This is why I decided to do a journal!. Keep it coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 A pair of dial Imperial calipers is very handy ! I got mine from Highland but I have seen similar ones at several woodworking stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'll also be following along. One thing I'm glad I did on my built in (thanks to steve) was making sure it would make all the turns from the shop if you ate assembling it in the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 This is something that has been on my list forever, but I've been flummoxed by unusual crevices on one side. Interested to see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Delay of game: Sunday was supposed to be used to install a pellet stove in the house, my 2 sons showed up to help with the 375lb monster. I was going to use the tractor to lift the stove to the back deck, except the tractor died 3ft from the deck!. Wasted an hour trying to fix the tractor, eventually we loaded the stove on a dolly and horsed the thing up the steps and into the house. Spent yesterday morning fixing the tractor and the afternoon on the stove install. I am hoping that I finish the install this morning and get started on this build in the afternoon. Hope springs eternal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Looking forward to following along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 oh this looks awesome!! I have been trying to come up with ideas on a closet for my daughter ... this will help greatly seeing how you go about things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 I started cutting plywood yesterday, and intended to have everything cut and ready for trim today. But I now have a question. The next sheet of ply has decided to bow, this didn't show up until now because there was another sheet laying on top. This piece was going to be cut into 4 45"x23 1//2 pieces. The place I bought the ply has a pretty clear no return/restocking fee policy, with plywood being specifically listed in the policy. So should I bite the bullet and buy another sheet, or take my chances and see what happens when it is cut to size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lester Burnham said: Since you're stuck with it, cut it and see what happens. Where are those 4 pieces going in this build? They are the vertical panels in the upper half of the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 You'll probably be find Bob.. Ultimately, it depends on how you're going to attach but, I don't see much issue with sucking that small bow out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Bob Posted November 3, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, TIODS said: You'll probably be find Bob.. Ultimately, it depends on how you're going to attach but, I don't see much issue with sucking that small bow out. Well my concern was that 2 of them would be supports for the upper trays. But I just called the store, and spoke with the manager, he apparently thinks I am a "valued" customer and immediately offered to swap it out a no charge. I did not expect that, so to quote Gilda Radner, "never mind". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 This looks like a interesting project. I am looking forward to following. Your Sketchup looks pretty good, it would have taken me longer to get that done then the project itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Chet K. said: This looks like a interesting project. I am looking forward to following. Your Sketchup looks pretty good, it would have taken me longer to get that done then the project itself. Exactly, took me days, but I wanted see if it was worth learning. The jury is still out.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Bob Posted November 5, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Before I update this I need to thank a couple of people. I am using dados instead of dominos. This means that I am using the OF 1400 and track to cut a lot of dados. It is a great router, but the dust collection blocks my view of the bit and makes adjusting the bit to a line damn near impossible. So thanks to @Janello tip, I cut a "view window" in the DC attachment and that simple mod makes a world of difference in being able to see what I am cutting. Yesterday I cut all of the smaller vertical panels and then carried each one to the table saw to cut to final width. As the day wore on I decided that either plywood is heavier than 10 years ago, or I am getting old and weak. Since it is obviously heavier, I needed a way to support the ply while I cut the panels to final width. I stopped mid stream went to the store and bought a couple of toggle clamps and made @gee-dub cool in-feed table. It is fabulous for supporting large pieces. I liked it so much I made a second one to help with the long panels I still need to cut So thank you both! As I said, on Thursday I cut all of the short vertical panels and the one fixed shelf, used the track saw for the initial cuts and the table saw to cut them to final width. And labeled each one. Friday was filled with interruptions, but I managed to get some done. The top and bottom pieces are "mirrored" so I started by cutting the rabbets for the 1/4" ply on the back. I was worried about chip out and taped the cut, but the down spiral bit worked like a champ and made a very clean cut. Then I started on the six dados, On Monday I made an exact width dado jig to span the full width of the ply. I used it to cut a stopped dado for the fixed shelf. Half way through the cut the jig rails started to flex and I ruined about $30.00 of ply. Enough about that... I have used the Festool track and router for dados before but never for an exact width cut. All of the ply is a nominal 18mm thick. I did a little math and test cuts, it turns out that a 1/2" router bit + a 6mm domino as a spacer = close enough. I cut a piece of mdf that matched distance between the router bit edge and the edge of the router base. This helped me speed up clamping the track the right distance from the dado location. Then attached the router to track so the base was touching the edge of the track. Make the first pass and used the micro adjust thing and domino to set the width for the second cut. Rinse and repeat. I am using labeled off cuts to double check the fit before I move on but so far I haven't needed to make any changes. I am really happy with the fit. The jig would have faster, but I don't think the fit could be any better. Between the wife, robo election calls and the toothless door to door salesman want me to by his "extra" beef, I didn't get as much done as I wanted to, but so far, this is going pretty well. If you don't count the $30.00 in wasted ply. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Looks like you are off to a good start Bob. I am sure the wasted ply will end up a a nice piece of shop furniture some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Nice work as always Bob! Great job on the journal as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Looking good Bob, glad my suggestion helped. I envy you for tackling this. I recently went to home depot and used their beautiful pressboard shelving with that super nice paper veneer on my closets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Looking good Bob, glad my suggestion helped. I envy you for tackling this. I recently went to home depot and used their beautiful pressboard shelving with that super nice paper veneer on my closets. Can't beat their press board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 4 hours ago, bushwacked said: Can't beat their press board If I had done that I would be done. This is on hold until after Thanksgiving weekend. Somehow 13 people, 6 of them small children, and 6 dogs just don't fit with sharp spinning steel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 How's it going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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