Llama Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I may be alone in this, but I doubt it...There have been a few posts and threads deleted recently. Some without breaking any of the rules I can find. Some are on the border of these rules, but reasonably away from the edge.If nothing else, we should have the title of the thread left intact, and a reason it was locked. I'm sure the mods have to write something about removing threads anyway... It would remove any need for clarification on our end.I can understand if a thread with some bad language was cleaned up, or if the thread can not be cleaned, then deleted... However, I have only seen one of those threads since being here.. and it was actually a post, and really wasn't horrible. It was, well... simple... (yeah, you remember the one)The easiest way to do this would be to have a list of words that we are not allowed to use. Words such as cop seem to be offending someone here, so a list would be helpful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I have not noticed this but I doubt you are making things up.I do on occasion delete my own posts if I think, in hindsight, they are poorly worded or don't add to the discussion. Anytime I have broken the rules the mods have reached out and told me why. I called someone a "richard" one time and was warned to not do that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Mel, I totally agree. I had one locked last night. There was a chance it could have become a rant, but I didn't post it for that intention and it got no where close. It even received a couple of likes after it was locked, and received close to a hundred views. Then this morning I see that it was completely removed. And there was no profanity, nor mention of politics or religion in it. I realize this isn't my forum and I can go elsewhere if I like, but I don't care too.The very first subject under Off Topics is Marc's, qualifying what is acceptable, and I feel like mine fit those guide lines. If I over stepped and offended someone, then I apologize for doing so but do not apologize for the subject matter posted.Ken M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 More often than not, I think, a thread disappears because the author deletes it. This happens quite often, and I don't really understand people's inclination to do that, but it happens. We can pull deleted threads out of the archives if it's something people really want to continue talking about, but the OP deleted it for a reason and I suppose we should respect that regardless of why it was deleted.You can believe me when I say that none of the mods enjoy policing threads and deleting posts and topics. It's not my idea of a good time and no one wants to censor anyone. But there are two rules on the forum that are to be followed: no jerks, and no political or religious posts. And while Coop's thread last night was not explicitly political, it was politically charged and there was not a single comment that could be made in reply without heading into political territory.Just for the record, I did not lock or delete that thread, but I completely understand why that action was taken. I think the vast majority of the regular members here are friendly and reasonable people who could probably have a discussion about any subject under the sun without getting too nasty about it...except politics and religion. There's just something about those two topics that brings out the worst in people, and can drive a wedge between even the oldest and best of friends. There's something written in the human DNA that simply does not allow rational conversation on those topics.There are plenty of places on the internet you can visit if you feel the need to express yourself politically. I personally find that a monumental waste of time, but to each his own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 In third grade we all learned about facts and opinions and the difference between the two.Religion and politics are two topics where people tend to confuse opinions for fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Wood Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 It surprises me deleting threads (by the members) are allowed. It is something I very rarely see and has seen during the more than 15 years I've been participating in forums. But I understand why political and religious discussions are not allowed. I've seen far too many discussions (even been a admin on a couple of political forums) regarding politics and religion ruin great discussions.I have a pretty easy rule about life in general: People are idiots. Including myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thewoodwhisperer Posted September 2, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) What Eric said... The first and most important thing to remember about Wood Talk Online is that it's a woodworking forum. If you ever have mods deleting your woodworking posts then please bring that to our attention. As Eric said, we aren't a power-hungry bunch here and deleting threads isn't something we enjoy doing or even have to do often. The threads in question are always off-topic and as such (and this may sound harsh), they are of secondary concern to me. My first concern will always be to keep this a positive environment for woodworking discussion. The only reason I even have an off-topic room is because people requested it. But it's presence is 100% conditional and I see no reason to keep locked threads around. In many cases, the titles alone are enough to ruffle some feathers.Because of my own personal forum experiences, I promised myself that any forum under my control would be different than the rest. That difference comes from a fairly aggressive policy toward off-topic conversation. So yes, anything that even skirts the territory of politics or religion will likely be removed. This includes many social issues that would take us down an emotionally charged path.So I apologize if some have an issue with the way we handle things. But I honestly believe the reason this forum continues to be a pleasant troll-free flame-free zone is because we actually care enough to restrict off-topic conversation. And very often we take the punch in the face that results when you spank a grown man on the back of the hand who feels they've been "silenced" by the man. Edited September 2, 2015 by thewoodwhisperer 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Don't even think of doing away with Off Topics as it's a fun place to visit! I'll do better in the future or you can send me to Time Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Unmoderated forums do not last. And the moderator in first instance must be oneself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beechwood Chip Posted September 2, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Mel, I totally agree. I had one locked last night.Coop,I locked your thread. I always PM someone when I lock or delete their thread, unless they are a new member who doesn't have PM privileges. I didn't in your case because, if I remember correctly, you said in your post, "lock this if you have to." So, I figured you wouldn't be surprised when it was locked.I apologize, and in the future I will always PM. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I like the off-topic section precisely because it stays away from politics and religion. It is a nice way to build a community and keep things civil and troll-free. Please keep it and keep it moderated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Thanks Chip. And I did say that, hoping maybe someone would not take it in the wrong direction, but saw the possibility.We're good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Marc, Thank you for taking the time to post here to clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brendon_t Posted September 2, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 So I apologize if some have an issue with the way we handle things. But I honestly believe the reason this forum continues to be a pleasant troll-free flame-free zone is because we actually care enough to restrict off-topic conversation. And very often we take the punch in the face that results when you spank a grown man..just to be clear... Are you offering? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 choosing my response very carefully..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Marc, don't answer, in fact move far away, or Brendon will move next door looking for his daily spanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I've noticed a few things in the archives which are disjointed, or I come across comments which seem non sequitur (like Chef references), but in no case have I seen this effect the actual woodworking content. It shows up in the banter and camaraderie not in the Wood Talk. Kudos to the Mod Squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Kudos to the Mod Squad."Solid" Edited September 3, 2015 by Beechwood Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) I've noticed a few things in the archives which are disjointed, or I come across comments which seem non sequitur (like Chef references), but in no case have I seen this effect the actual woodworking content. It shows up in the banter and camaraderie not in the Wood Talk. Kudos to the Mod Squad.I never realized Eric had an afro, or that he was Laurence Fishburne Edited September 3, 2015 by Tom Cancelleri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Why does Eric get to be Linc?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Because I'm the baddest of bad mofos and I got a sweet fro. But you can be Pete and I guess that means Kev is Julie. Marc, obviously, the Captain. Sorry Kev. You're flexible.If I knew the Mod Squad better I'd use some clever catchphrase here to put a bow on it. But I think I've seen about ten minutes of that show in my entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think that hurts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Can you leave Linc so we can see it for a while Eric..He was a smart guy with lots of courage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Wouldn't cultural appropriation fall under topics that would be modded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Wouldn't cultural appropriation fall under topics that would be modded? Probably depends on who is appropriating which culture Edited September 3, 2015 by Llama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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