Seth Clayton Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm planning on building a paulk bench when I get back in my shop after the winter. How important is it that the dog holes are drilled perfectly? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Perfectly drilled holes are important for square and alignment. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Clayton Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Perfectly drilled holes are important for square and alignment. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk For what application? I understand the concept in theory, but I've never used something like this so I'm struggling to picture their use Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 We're talking round holes here . . . If you use your dog holes like the holes in Festool's MFT they become a reference point / edge for you. Depending on the work you do this can be quite handy. If you are using them like more traditional dog holes, vertical alignment is more important than linear alignment. You want your dogs standing perpendicular to your benchtop. This way any angle added to the dog or any gizmos that use dog holes will be in the position you planned on. I know people who simply drill the hole wherever they find they need one. I use a pattern that minimizes my vise jaw movement. For planing long stock a row across the front edge of the top is often all that is used. The spacing depends on what you do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 If you're building a Paulk bench, I guess a strict pattern of well drilled holes is important, since you will be using a lot of dog hole mounted hardware to clamp and align your workpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I used this set up when I did my dog holes. I used the drill bit not the forstner bit. I think with the forstner bit there is still a chance of going at some what of an angle once the business end gets past the bushing. This set up gives you nice drill press type perpendicular holes with a hand held drill motor Dog Hole Bit & Bushing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, Chet K said: I used this set up when I did my dog holes. I used the drill bit not the forstner bit. I think with the forstner bit there is still a chance of going at some what of an angle once the business end gets past the bushing. This set up gives you nice drill press type perpendicular holes with a hand held drill motor Dog Hole Bit & Bushing I used this kit as well. Not the cheapest route but after all the time and money invested in my bench it was well worth it to me. Made the process super easy and great results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I bought a 3/4" spiral router bit. At the time I bought it they are about $35. I notice they are $47 now so the kit isn't that out of line. The router bit can be used for other things but, how often you need a 3/4" upcut spiral will determine the value of that. I have never used it for anything else (???). The plunge router allows you to make very vertical holes but, my top is 3" thick so I had to finish them with something else anyway. On thinner tops they make quick work of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 35 minutes ago, gee-dub said: I bought a 3/4" spiral router bit. At the time I bought it they are about $35. I notice they are $47 now so the kit isn't that out of line. The router bit can be used for other things but, how often you need a 3/4" upcut spiral will determine the value of that. I have never used it for anything else (???). The plunge router allows you to make very vertical holes but, my top is 3" thick so I had to finish them with something else anyway. On thinner tops they make quick work of it. I definitely would have used a plunge router but at the time I didn't even own one. So at the time this was the cost effective solution. Now I would go gee-dub's route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wdwerker Posted February 9, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I mounted a jig base to my plunge router with a second hole for registration. Drop a pin in the registration hole and the spacing will be the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Going to ask one of those proverbial stupid questions... Assuming I could even get a 3/4" forstner to safely mount in the router, would that work, or would I be asking for trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Going to ask one of those proverbial stupid questions... Assuming I could even get a 3/4" forstner to safely mount in the router, would that work, or would I be asking for trouble? Most likely no, they have maximum speed ratings. You can probably look that up for your forstner bit online to compare with your router RPMs to be sure. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Reading this thread, I was thinking about doing what Steve just said. Although I was going to to use a guide bushing and a template with multiple hole to speed the process. But I think Steve's way might produce more accurate spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Clayton Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Reading this thread, I was thinking about doing what Steve just said. Although I was going to to use a guide bushing and a template with multiple hole to speed the process. But I think Steve's way might produce more accurate spacing. Sorry, but who's Steve? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Seth Clayton said: Sorry, but who's Steve? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't know either but, it is handy when people refer to people by the names they have chosen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Steve is @wdwerker. If you're looking at this on the web interface, some people have their actual names in their signatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuckMySmile Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/8/2017 at 11:57 AM, pkinneb said: I used this kit as well. Not the cheapest route but after all the time and money invested in my bench it was well worth it to me. Made the process super easy and great results. When I hit that link it takes me to a 10$ bushing. What else did you use considering you said it wasn’t the “cheapest.” Is there more to the jig than the bushing? I’m trying to do some dog holes currently and was looking to find a jig. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Guest SuckMySmile said: When I hit that link it takes me to a 10$ bushing. What else did you use considering you said it wasn’t the “cheapest.” Is there more to the jig than the bushing? I’m trying to do some dog holes currently and was looking to find a jig. Thanks! Keep scrolling. The bit is under the bushing in the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yea, you have to scroll down for the bits. Make sure you are ordering the bit for the bushing you want, they come in inch and millimeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 You can take a scrap of 2x material, joint and plane both sides, then cut two pieces to about 12” and glue one on top of the other. Take this to your drill press and drill a hole in the middle, the size of your dog hole and use this as a guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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