Popular Post Bmac Posted December 8, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 I contacted a friend of mine who seems to know everyone in Delaware to see if I could score some oak for firewood. He knew a farm owner that had a tree that needed to be cleared, so off we went to harvest some Red Oak. When we got there we saw a gorgeous White Oak down about 150 yards into the woods. My friend had the right equipment to at least try to harvest this great looking tree. After we cleaned up the Red Oak and split the haul with the land owner, myself and my friend we went to work on the White Oak. The owner said if you can get it out you can have it as it will just rot anyway. We used a Bobcat and it got stuck multiple times as it was wet and swampy where the tree was, but some persistence payed off. Now these logs will go into my pile with the Black walnut for the bandsaw mill I've hired later this month. Definitely will have these quarter sawn. Not an Oak fan, but can't pass up an opportunity to stock pile some QSWO. Maybe I'll need to start doing some Arts and Craft wood working projects. Here's the tree, will cut into 8' sections; Here's are extractor; Freed up the tree from the top branches and started dragging the logs out of the swampy mess; As we expected, and a really cool thing to see, was once we got to the 8' butt log, the heavy dirt ball out weighed the remaining weight of the log and up popped the final log. I've seen this on TV but never in person, was really quite cool to see the log stand back up on it's own, below is the picture of the butt log upright; So we now had to "drop" a tree that was already blown over; It was just too muddy to get the but log out today, my friend is headed back out later this week to try again, but I did get some primo logs pulled out; And the best picture of all, 3 great saw logs loaded on his truck, and one nice firewood log for good measure; If we can get the butt log out I'll have that, plus another decent saw log we didn't load to mill along with the three logs in the picture above. If we can't extract the butt log I might be tempted to mill it on site with my chainsaw mill. Time to have a cold one and build a few more drying racks! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Wow those will be great. Fair warning, quarter sawing logs takes a good deal longer, especially if the saw has no power moving. Factor that in to your total time renting the mill. Quartering big 36" sycamore logs took me and the operator about 4X as long as canting and slicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 I always wondered why don't you cut those logs around 9 ft so you get fully useful 8'+ lengths after drying ? Glad you scored some potential QSWH . Please have a hand plane handy when it gets cut & share some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Well you are a ole logger too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Bmac you are a flat land logger. You need to get in the steep mtns and try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Don't those guys have one leg longer than the other ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 That would help. You need to drive a skidder in the steep mtns with one or two wheels on the ground and four trees behind the skidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted December 8, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 You just described what it feels like riding with my wife driving. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, K Cooper said: You just described what it feels like riding with my wife driving. I’m guessing you don’t like riding with her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 I can picture a woman driving on 2 wheels with the neighbors shrubbery trailing the car and Coop hanging on to the Jesus bar for dear life.... kinda evoking the spirit of the Griswolds ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted December 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Brendon_t said: Wow those will be great. Fair warning, quarter sawing logs takes a good deal longer, especially if the saw has no power moving. Factor that in to your total time renting the mill. Quartering big 36" sycamore logs took me and the operator about 4X as long as canting and slicing. Yup, realize it will take longer, plan to pick the best log and start with that to figure out timing. I'll have at least 3, maybe 4 I want quarter sawn along with 3 walnut logs and a few paulownia. It will be a full day. 4 hours ago, wdwerker said: I always wondered why don't you cut those logs around 9 ft so you get fully useful 8'+ lengths after drying ? Glad you scored some potential QSWH . Please have a hand plane handy when it gets cut & share some pics. I would have cut them shorter but it's harder for the mill. My rationale for shorter logs is that since I cut a lot of stuff at 9/4 it's just a lot easier for me to handle the smaller boards. Ends have already been sealed with anchorseal so I'm not expecting much loss from end cracks. Also, I can't remember the last time I built something where I needed 8 ft boards. Now with saying that, I'll need that length next build. 4 hours ago, Spanky said: Bmac you are a flat land logger. You need to get in the steep mtns and try it. You know, that would be fun, for a few days. I love cutting and processing wood almost as much as I like making things with wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Personally, I'd go through everything else, then start on the white oak. That way everything else is out of the way and you can then decide how long you want to pay to be quartering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Bmac not sure on how you will QS your white oak log. If they are big I cut them in four quarters and start cutting one quarter. But on smaller logs I QS them this way in the pic and it’s faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted December 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Logs are about 28" diameter, I've cut them in quarters in the past but I do like what what is in your photo, that would be faster. I'm not really that worried about time. I'll start with the best logs, likely the Walnut as Brendon says up above, and move on from there. If I don't get everything milled I'm not losing any sleep, I have a chainsaw mill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Here's a discussion by sawyers about charging that you may find interesting: http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=104073.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIW Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Bmac those are real nice white oak logs. My guess is about 800 bdf. But Spanky it a lot better at telling that than I will ever be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, RIW said: Bmac those are real nice white oak logs. My guess is about 800 bdf. But Spanky it a lot better at telling that than I will ever be. I bet with those kind words, you’re still no closer to getting some of his butternut! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Spanky said: Bmac not sure on how you will QS your white oak log. If they are big I cut them in four quarters and start cutting one quarter. But on smaller logs I QS them this way in the pic and it’s faster. How do they get that glaze on the logs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodenskye Posted December 9, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Spanky said: I’m guessing you don’t like riding with her? Why do think Coop keeps a change of underwear in her glove box. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, K Cooper said: How do they get that glaze on the logs? Judging by the fluffy white stuff on the ground, I'm guessing that's ice. Since you've probably never seen that outside of a scotch glass, we can overlook the "glaze" comment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Bmac said: The owner said if you can get it out you can have it as it will just rot anyway Haha. White oak? That's funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Tom King said: Here's a discussion by sawyers about charging that you may find interesting: http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=104073.0 That was was a cool discussion to read. I've never gotten into the weeds on the measurements when I help out at the mill, but I'm going to now. Very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Jfitz said: Haha. White oak? That's funny. Right.. it'll be gone in about 200 years : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Poor ole Coop, like Rodney Dangerfield I don’t get no respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted December 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Jfitz said: Haha. White oak? That's funny. 56 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Right.. it'll be gone in about 200 years : ) Yup, it's amazing how little the average person knows about wood. Now if it was a Black Walnut I wonder if he would have said that, or thought he had something very valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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