pkinneb Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Yeah Mick thanks for taking the time on the video's I have picked up a few tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Mick, you’re right, Marc probably shouldn’t get his panties in a wad just yet but you are sneaking up on him quickly ! Great tips and video. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Good job on the first videos. I like that jig for gluing up the veneer panels. Is it a table by itself or do you just put it on another work surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted May 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Even though the end of the semester is next week and my students have been scrambling to finish up their projects I've still made a little progress this week. Got the frame parts cut out and the side panels sized and ready for assembly. Here's the cloud lift that separates the upper drawers from the file drawers. I put some sliding dovetails in for the frames to tie into for a little extra rigidity since the files drawers will be pretty heavy. I took a good bit of video of the processes that I'll try to put together this weekend. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Looks great! Do you use templates for the cloud lift and the legs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 hours ago, pkinneb said: Looks great! Do you use templates for the cloud lift and the legs? CNC. I initially cut templates (CNC) from 1/4" MDF for grain and figure layout and for getting an idea of scale before I started cutting everything. Once I was happy with that I laid out the patterns on the pieces I was cutting from so I could orient the parts in my CAD program (Aspire). Particularly for the cloud lift, I wanted the consistency more than anything else, so that once I get to the door and drawer fronts I can hopefully get a consistent reveal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 8:16 PM, Chet said: Good job on the first videos. I like that jig for gluing up the veneer panels. Is it a table by itself or do you just put it on another work surface Thanks Chet. It's a separate piece that I hang on the wall when not in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted June 2, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 Had to replace my hard drive which put me way behind on updating this project. I'll get to it soon. In the meantime - I'm really happy that I talked myself into the 16" jointer over the 12". Pretty much at capacity! And the surface finish is really nice - no tearout (cutters are still on the original edge after 1 1/2 years of use) and lots of chatoyance! Love this machine! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Fantastic boards!! I always assumed a 16" machine would cover 98% of everyone's needs. You just squeaked by in this instance. I have a 500mm jointer, and in thicker stock, i think I become the limiting factor. I dont know that i could comfortably muscle a 8/4 board of that width over 7-9'. I wondered this in the guild build too, but what is the advantage of veneering the side panels? Ribboned Sapele isnt exactly rare or expensive. Seems like a hassle to glue up a veneer panel instead of doing it in solid wood,but i saw Darrel do it in his build too. Just to get away with not worrying about a floating panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Pwk5017 said: I wondered this in the guild build too, but what is the advantage of veneering the side panels? Ribboned Sapele isnt exactly rare or expensive. Seems like a hassle to glue up a veneer panel instead of doing it in solid wood,but i saw Darrel do it in his build too. Just to get away with not worrying about a floating panel? You're right, sapele plywood is not expensive but at least in my case, I didn't want to buy a whole sheet when I only needed about 1/4 of it. I don't use sapele much (my first time ever) and I thought it would most likely sit around for a long time. After cutting and laying up the veneer, making the panel, etc., I found myself asking why not do a frame and panel? I think one advantage of his method is rigidity. With that much glue surface involved, I don't think it's going anywhere. Since my project is a file cabinet rather than a nightstand, that extra rigidity might be a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted June 26, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Still no video put together but here are a few shots of the current status. The ebony "pegs" on the lower doors (actually drawer fronts) are just electrical tape I used to play with different arrangements for the real ones. If anyone follows Darell Peart on IG you may have seen his posts about updating his finishing process since he did the Fremont Night Stand guild project. He's trying to get away from ARS and VOC's in general to a safer and less toxic process. He posted that he was going to Livos Kunos oils, specifically cocobolo for the color and natural as a topcoat. I took his word for it and tried it on this project. All I can say is wow. Very simple to use and great results. I still need to attach the "door" fronts to the file drawers and make the pulls, then it's just detailing it and putting finish on the rest of the piece. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Beautiful. Were you able to buy the finish locally? Although I have been using the same basic formula for years I am always tweaking things in the finish area. Being in SoCal my component choices are getting limited without crossing the border ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted June 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, gee-dub said: Beautiful. Were you able to buy the finish locally? Although I have been using the same basic formula for years I am always tweaking things in the finish area. Being in SoCal my component choices are getting limited without crossing the border ;-) Thanks gee-dub. Nope, I got it from a vendor in Idaho I believe. Very good service, though. Printed the shipping label while I was on the phone ordering it. Got it 3 days later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Very nice!! Great job with all the details in that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted June 26, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, Bmac said: Very nice!! Great job with all the details in that piece. Thanks much. One of the trickier details was fitting the doors to the cloud lift arch. trying to get the consistent reveal all the way around took some thought. Here's how I wound up doing it. I first matched the upper door rail to the bottom of the cloud lift and clamped it in place with the spacers I use for the offset. Then I added the right stile, again with the offset, then the bottom (no offset spacer which gave me room to trim), just working my way around. That method worked out really well. Once all four pieces were in place I scribed the panel to fit and added in the offset for the dado. The back of the panel had to be flush with the back of the frame since the actual drawer fronts are attached to it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Another amazing piece Mick!! Thanks for taking us along. That top and all the details...stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 So the bottom two doors will be two file drawers and the top two are actual drawers. When you first were describing this I picture the file section to be two faux doors with the filing system to be perpendicular to the door fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted June 26, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chet said: When you first were describing this I picture the file section to be two faux doors with the filing system to be perpendicular to the door fronts. Yes, that is correct. I’ll post another photo after I attach the fronts. I’ve been picking cherries all morning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 M'mmmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 12:22 PM, Chet said: When you first were describing this I picture the file section to be two faux doors with the filing system to be perpendicular to the door fronts. Here you go. I'm making samples of Darrell's ribbon pull and the block and dowel pull to see which I like better. The inside stiles of the file drawers will be the pull mount location and the ribbon pulls may be too bulky to look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mick S said: The inside stiles of the file drawers will be the pull mount location and the ribbon pulls may be too bulky to look right. That's interesting, I was thinking they would look great in the vertical orientation. Maybe just a little shorter and narrower. But maybe my preference comes for not really liking the block and dowel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 I prefer the looks of the ribbon pull, too. I'll just have to scale them down quite bit to get it to look right. I did a quick mockup for the upper drawer pulls and they'd look fine up there with some tweaking. Too large for the file drawers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 1:34 PM, Mick S said: Yes, that is correct. I’ll post another photo after I attach the fronts. I’ve been picking cherries all morning. That's a heck of a lot more fun than sanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Mmmmmm, fresh cherry pie, that takes me back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted July 12, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Finished up the Fremont File Cabinet this morning. More hours in it than I had anticipated, but I'm happy with the results and I learned a great deal. Thanks to Marc and Darrell for the great video and detailed Guild build! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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