Popular Post freedhardwoods Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 This is an update on our shops progress over the last few months. The floor joists in our shop had rotted due to water getting in under the shop so we had to replace them. Everything got rearranged after the new floor and a few things added. I bought a PM 66 from an Amish shop for $300 dollars. It had a hydraulic motor on it so he gave me a never used Saw Stop motor to put on it. Now I have a Grizzly and PM both powered by Saw Stop motors. The PM is our main saw now. The Grizzly (former main saw) has a 3/4" dado blade in it most of the time and we run plywood and frame stock through it. We moved the old dado saw (Craftsman) off by itself and keep a 1/2" blade in it to run frame stock through. I put a wooden fence on it to keep it compact. We got a 13 hole line bore for $500 from a hobbyist 3 miles away that quit woodworking. It had some slight surface rust in a few places from humidity. I spent a couple hours disassembling and cleaning and it works like new now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Educate me, if you will...how is the line boring machine used in the process? Shop looks great, BTW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnG Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Shelf pin holes would be my guess. Looking good! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 It's for drilling shelf pin holes. We were using a clamp-on Kreg jig with a hand drill. That gets old real fast when you have several hundred holes to drill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Been thinking about you bud. Glad things are going your way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freedhardwoods Posted October 19, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 I forgot about the Kreg Foreman. Much faster and easier than the K4 and homemade jig we were using. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Shop looks good. I like how you have good lighting and a lot of space. I'm interested in this hydraulic motor the amish were using and how that worked. Sounds like you got a good deal from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legenddc Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 I realize you build cabinets for a living so you need all the space but man am I jealous of all your work support around tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Chestnut said: Shop looks good. I like how you have good lighting and a lot of space. I'm interested in this hydraulic motor the amish were using and how that worked. Sounds like you got a good deal from them. My understanding is that Amish don't do electricity, so they retrofit tools like that to use hydraulic motors, with the hydraulic pressure supplied from a diesel-driven pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Chestnut said: Shop looks good. I like how you have good lighting and a lot of space. I'm interested in this hydraulic motor the amish were using and how that worked. Sounds like you got a good deal from them. 22 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: My understanding is that Amish don't do electricity, so they retrofit tools like that to use hydraulic motors, with the hydraulic pressure supplied from a diesel-driven pump. The Amish near me are slowly modernizing. When I was a kid, they weren't allowed to have air in tires, use electricity, use combines in fields, etc. Now they can have all that. Some let electricity do more than others, which is why some still use hydraulic motors and some have switched to electric. It all has to come from a generator though. I bought the Grizzly and PM saw from the same guy. They have SawStops now, run by hydraulic motors, with electricity from a generator making the trip mechanism work. They had sold the electric motors for the saws I bought, so he gave me both, never used, SawStop motors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, legenddc said: I realize you build cabinets for a living so you need all the space but man am I jealous of all your work support around tools. I know it may not look like it to some of you, but we don't have near enough room to work efficiently. We are working on a 47 cabinet job now and don't know where to put all the pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 In my 600 ft garage I could I would make all door and drawers first then cut out the whole cabinet job. I could build about 5 reasonable cabinets at a time.build fit out hang doors and drawers and at the end of the day. At the end of the day I would haul 1.5 miles to a stage facility. Cost me $75 a month. As soon as I finished the jo the same rental facility rented me 24' box trucks for $150 for the day. I would pay $200 to a friend to help load, unload and install uppers and put cabinets in place. As far as I'm concerned you are making very good, positive progress. ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freedhardwoods Posted October 21, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 We have been really busy the last few months and I just realized today that I hadn't shown our finish/assembly room addition. We got a 16' x 44' portable building and put it beside the shop, then built an enclosed hallway between the two. It took a lot of work to get it to this point. There is still several things to be done in both buildings when I can get to it. We spray everything we can (doors, drawer fronts, face frames, etc) hanging. I have a short video of my son spraying, but I don't see how to put a video here. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 That’s super nice Freed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Wow, you have made a ton of progress! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Paint, paint, paint. If I had to start all over I would paint my concrete walls. White, white, white,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 hours ago, BillyJack said: Paint, paint, paint. If I had to start all over I would paint my concrete walls. White, white, white,.. It doesn't look like it, but there is two coats of white paint on all the walls except the exhaust fan wall. That chipboard sucks it up like a sponge. The white paint does brighten the room a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Here is a video of my son spraying finish on a door using Paint Lines portable hanging system. We ended up making a permanent version. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I'm impressed by your setup. And congratulations on getting large production jobs. I see in one of the pictures that it looks like a crop growing near your shop. Are you also a farmer? I like your beard. It makes me think of ZZ Top. Is there any danger with a long beard near machinery? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I can tell it know. Using any software to layout cabinets or by hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, curlyoak said: I'm impressed by your setup. And congratulations on getting large production jobs. I see in one of the pictures that it looks like a crop growing near your shop. Are you also a farmer? I like your beard. It makes me think of ZZ Top. Is there any danger with a long beard near machinery? Thanks. The corn is growing on what used to be forty acres my parents owned. Long story. Really wish I owned it and was farming, but I'm on an acre and a half off of the corner of the forty. I do grow a big garden. Used to be about 1/4 acre. I've cut back to about half that now. I haven't caught my beard in machinery yet, but I did catch it on fire lighting my cutting torch several months ago. That was an exciting few seconds beating my hands on my chest to put it out. 2 hours ago, BillyJack said: I can tell it now. Using any software to layout cabinets or by hand? Here's what I am using. https://cabinetsolutions.net/product/ I'm really happy with it. It does everything I need and lets you build cabinets just about any way you can imagine. It has a small learning curve, but once you get it set the way you want, you just enter width, depth, and height of a cabinet and it gives you all the parts, doors, and drawer sizes. You can print an assembly sheet for each cabinet. It costs about $600? per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I have used cabinet vision but it's expensive. Started using Ecabinets for free and it works great...its like any other. Once you set the settings you just need walls. I'm looking bbn for a better computer know to reload it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted October 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 I spent several hours researching cabinet software several months ago. I looked at Ecabinets, but their website gives very little info about how it works. That caused me to steer away from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 22, 2020 Report Share Posted October 22, 2020 It works like the others. Once you set up setting to your likings, learn to create walls, it gets easier. They have a site online that can answer any question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Do you have an up draft in your painting area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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