Chet Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, pkinneb said: Absolutely we can watch a guild build on 135" screen in Dolby THX with surround sound Will this make the build easier to do ourselves after watching it under such great conditions??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted June 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Well the rec room ceiling is finally done ...and I started on the curved soffits in the theater. Tried a new (to me) product called Flex-c Trac while not cheap much quicker then the plywood route I used on the bar I laid out the curve on the floor so that I could easily replicate it for both soffits, the stage step, and the riser steps. While all will be different lengths the arc will be the same. once you have the curve you want you just pound the tabs down easy peasy. Last update for a couple weeks heading to the Black Hills and Denver in the Miata for the next 10 days 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 9 hours ago, pkinneb said: Last update for a couple weeks heading to the Black Hills and Denver in the Miata for the next 10 days Driving Needles highway? I'm jealous the Black hills are beautiful, It's been a long time since I've been there. I guess that Denver place is ok, But I-70 to the west is an awesome drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: Driving Needles highway? I'm jealous the Black hills are beautiful, It's been a long time since I've been there. I guess that Denver place is ok, But I-70 to the west is an awesome drive. For sure! Yeah we really like it out there. It's been about 5 years since I was out there need to check in on Crazy Horse progress. I didn't mind Denver when I lived there in the early 90's but now its just to crowded for my liking, of course this is coming form I guy who lives in the country where a stop light is to big city for me. Having said that we have some friends who are getting up there that we haven't seen in several years so wanted to get out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, pkinneb said: For sure! Yeah we really like it out there. It's been about 5 years since I was out there need to check in on Crazy Horse progress. I didn't mind Denver when I lived there in the early 90's but now its just to crowded for my liking, of course this is coming form I guy who lives in the country where a stop light is to big city for me. Having said that we have some friends who are getting up there that we haven't seen in several years so wanted to get out there. I just drove through nowthen for some project progress and that area and up toward you really is beautiful. I hear ya on the city part. I don't mind my balance of city living and country feel. Is trade it for a 5 acre lot on a lake in a heart beat but I'm no millionaire.... Shucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted July 16, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Well after a great vacation and getting caught up on work stuff I finally got back to the basement. First up was to finish the front soffit I really like the way these turned out and I have decided the Flex C Trac was worth every penny Just another hour or two on the rear and the soffits will be complete. Home Depot finally got my 1 3/4" door slab in so I picked that up along with a couple of sheets of MDF. While outside I cut the MDF to 1" over size both length and width. I really like the TSO square on the Festool tracks, it works awesome. Like a lot of things its probably overpriced but it works well so to me its worth it since I cut all my sheet goods outside with my track saw. Have I mentioned its like 90 and 65% humidity here lately I about died LOL Next I need to fill the raised panels in on one side then glue the MDF to the door with wood glue on the perimeter and green glue (soundproofing compound) in the middle between each layer. Then I need to find a wood supplier to get some poplar to start on the door frame as well as the bar and bath cabinets. Prbaly going to try Forest supply in Woodbury 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Looks like fantastic progress to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, pkinneb said: I really like the TSO square on the Festool tracks, it works awesome. Me too. Worth the $$$. I like the way we help each other spend money on tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Given the weight & thickness of that door, what is your strategy for the hinges & door jamb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, drzaius said: Given the weight & thickness of that door, what is your strategy for the hinges & door jamb? Great question To start the hinge side of the wall has a 3 wide 2x4 jamb all screwed together and to the top and bottom plate, then I will use 4 HD wide throw ball bearing hinges. The door jamb itself will be made of 5/4 poplar but the weight will be carried by the hinges which will be screwed into the 2x4 jamb in the wall. Hopping this will be enough based on my research it should be but we shall see. I will be using a HD auto door closer so there will not be a regular door knob with latch etc. 9 hours ago, Chet said: Me too. Worth the $$$. I like the way we help each other spend money on tools. I'm hear for you Chet Speaking of new tools anybody have experience with the Festool LR 32 shelf pin set? I am thinking of picking it up for the bar/bath cabinets. Probably over kill but I really haven't bought much in the way of new tools for this project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Hey, @pkinneb, thanks for the answer on the door. My TV room (I call it that cause it's not a full blown dedicated theater) was built before I had any idea of the extent to which I was going to fit it with A/V. At first it was primarily for movie watching, but with the latest audio upgrades, I find myself using it more for listening to music. Trouble is, my wife doesn't appreciate the volume levels that I do, so I think I'm going to have to do some renovations. Right now, the door (just a hollow core door) is by far the biggest sound leak. The walls & ceiling are isolated & insulated, so I think it'll be just added layers of drywall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Beasley Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wonder how easy it would be to take the hollow core door apart and fill it with Rocksul sound deadening insulation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Door hanging strategy sounds good. Just make sure that the hinge side jamb fits the floor as good as possible, so it won't have anywhere to go down from bearing weight. If you search on Sawmillcreek, I have a long treatise on my door hanging method there somewhere. I never used a prehung door on any of the houses I built, and had it down to a science by the time I quit building new houses. Like everything else I did, there will be something there different than others do, and for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, drzaius said: Hey, @pkinneb, thanks for the answer on the door. My TV room (I call it that cause it's not a full blown dedicated theater) was built before I had any idea of the extent to which I was going to fit it with A/V. At first it was primarily for movie watching, but with the latest audio upgrades, I find myself using it more for listening to music. Trouble is, my wife doesn't appreciate the volume levels that I do, so I think I'm going to have to do some renovations. Right now, the door (just a hollow core door) is by far the biggest sound leak. The walls & ceiling are isolated & insulated, so I think it'll be just added layers of drywall. Np glad it was helpful. 1 hour ago, Gary Beasley said: Wonder how easy it would be to take the hollow core door apart and fill it with Rocksul sound deadening insulation? The problem is Rocksul like all the other insulation will only help high frequencies not the base frequencies, for that you need mass absorption which is where the solid core door slab and extra MDF with green glue come in. 42 minutes ago, Tom King said: Door hanging strategy sounds good. Just make sure that the hinge side jamb fits the floor as good as possible, so it won't have anywhere to go down from bearing weight. If you search on Sawmillcreek, I have a long treatise on my door hanging method there somewhere. I never used a prehung door on any of the houses I built, and had it down to a science by the time I quit building new houses. Like everything else I did, there will be something there different than others do, and for a reason. Thanks Tom I will definitely head over there to find it. I can use all the help I can get since I have never done one before P.s I may have more questions to bounce off you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 17 hours ago, pkinneb said: Well after a great vacation and getting caught up on work stuff I finally got back to the basement. First up was to finish the front soffit I really like the way these turned out and I have decided the Flex C Trac was worth every penny Just another hour or two on the rear and the soffits will be complete. Home Depot finally got my 1 3/4" door slab in so I picked that up along with a couple of sheets of MDF. While outside I cut the MDF to 1" over size both length and width. I really like the TSO square on the Festool tracks, it works awesome. Like a lot of things its probably overpriced but it works well so to me its worth it since I cut all my sheet goods outside with my track saw. Have I mentioned its like 90 and 65% humidity here lately I about died LOL Next I need to fill the raised panels in on one side then glue the MDF to the door with wood glue on the perimeter and green glue (soundproofing compound) in the middle between each layer. Then I need to find a wood supplier to get some poplar to start on the door frame as well as the bar and bath cabinets. Prbaly going to try Forest supply in Woodbury I'm not sure distance drive for you but Renberg in st. cloud seemed like a good option as well. Basement is looking good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Beasley Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ive heard of sand being used in doors and walls to quench sound as far as using pure mass. No idea how that would work out for a door. I can imagine slamming the door a bit too hard and bursting the sides making a heck of a mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I'm not sure distance drive for you but Renberg in st. cloud seemed like a good option as well. Basement is looking good. Problem is I don't think they are open Saturdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gary Beasley said: Ive heard of sand being used in doors and walls to quench sound as far as using pure mass. No idea how that would work out for a door. I can imagine slamming the door a bit too hard and bursting the sides making a heck of a mess. Correct and I will be using sand in the entire stage and in the riser where my sub-woofer will be placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, pkinneb said: Problem is I don't think they are open Saturdays. I think you are right.... Their delivery fee was practically nothing though. Just a thought. I think Forrest products is going to be expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Chestnut said: I think you are right.... Their delivery fee was practically nothing though. Just a thought. I think Forrest products is going to be expensive. Good to know I’ll give them a call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 http://siweklumber.com/category/lumber/ Has aspen on sale. Aspen is pretty much poplar though it's 6/4. Nothing a planer couldn't solve though if the price is right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chestnut said: http://siweklumber.com/category/lumber/ Has aspen on sale. Aspen is pretty much poplar though it's 6/4. Nothing a planer couldn't solve though if the price is right. Hey thanks for the heads up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Finally got to spend a full day in the shop Saturday and really enjoyed it. I needed to make some HAVC boxes pretty straight forward and made out of MDF but I was thrilled to be back in the shop. By dumping or pulling air through these large openings with the reducer collars you greatly suppress the HVAC air noise coming into the theater. Well that went great until the next morning when I noticed the openings were right where my rear speaker columns would be ...facepalm!! Well after pondering the situation I determined I could move the right box to the left side with no alterations, I will need to fix the ceiling a bit but not a huge deal. The left to right was not as easy but nothing to difficult either. First I patched the top hole. I will use acoustical sealant to seal all the seems and in this box the patch as well. Got to use the right angle attachment for the first time worked well Then had to cut a notch in the box problem solved. Then I moved on to the rear riser ...and that's where it sits. Hopping to finish the riser framing and the HVAC this week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just a question of curiosity, I know its a nice way to go but you seem to be putting a lot of effort into the sound proofing of the theater. Does it make the theater itself better? I have assumed you were on a piece of property so I wouldn't think it would be a problem for your neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Chet yes we are on a five acre wooded lot. The soundproofing is for two reasons first the theater is below the master bath and master closets so if the kids are home for the holidays they can watch something and I can still sleep. Secondly and more importantly it improves the experience within the theater. When you have a quiet scene it will be perfectly quiet you will also get the punch of the bass without having to turn up the volume to a level that makes other parts of the movie to loud. Once I get it set up and calibrated I’ll let you know if it was worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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