pkinneb Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, drzaius said: Go rent a drywall lift for the ceiling. You'll thank me later. Absolutely i have been using one all along but even to get the sheets of this size on the lift is to much...at least for me 15 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I've found it's cheaper to buy a drywall lift and sell it after the fact then it is to rent. They rent at $90 a week and you can buy it new for $160. Or try and find someone that realized that and is selling one. My son in law had one so I have been using it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, pkinneb said: Absolutely i have been using one all along but even to get the sheets of this size on the lift is to much...at least for me My son in law had one so I have been using it How tall does his extend and would he be willing to rent it our for a small fee something like $40? I don't want to drywall my garage but i don't know that I'll have a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Chestnut said: How tall does his extend and would he be willing to rent it our for a small fee something like $40? I don't want to drywall my garage but i don't know that I'll have a choice. I'm sure he would just need to see if it will go high enough I know it goes to 9" (that's what the basement ceiling is) but not sure of the max. I'll ask him Friday and let you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, pkinneb said: Absolutely i have been using one all along but even to get the sheets of this size on the lift is to much...at least for me Tell me about it. Just out of high school I had a job carrying drywall. I had to work with these apes that figured that carrying double 14' sheets of 5/8" drywall were the way to break in noobs like myself. Hanging on to the back end of that you have no choice but to keep up. Now a single 8' sheet is about my limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, drzaius said: Tell me about it. Just out of high school I had a job carrying drywall. I had to work with these apes that figured that carrying double 14' sheets of 5/8" drywall were the way to break in noobs like myself. Hanging on to the back end of that you have no choice but to keep up. Now a single 8' sheet is about my limit. yeah not even on my best day LOL. Of course I was pretty much a wimp in high school I was 5'3" and 95 lbs when I graduated I'm taller now 6'1" but probably not much stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 I used two drywall lifts to get heavy coffers against a 10' ceiling. They're a bit wobbly, but better than holding it on top of your head while running screws in. I quit doing sheetrock ceilings decades ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Now, can you come up with a hole saw trick to make a big hole smaller? As for the lifts, every one I've checked maxed out at 11'. Naturally, the ceiling in my garage is 12'... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: Now, can you come up with a hole saw trick to make a big hole smaller? As for the lifts, every one I've checked maxed out at 11'. Naturally, the ceiling in my garage is 12'... Some of them make extensions to go up to 15'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 The one I have that someone gave me has the extension. I've never had the extension on it, but just looking at it, I decided I didn't want to be standing under a full sheet of sheetrock held up by it. edited to add: I just did some googling, and see that there are 1200 dollar lifts, and 169 dollar lifts. The high end ones look pretty good, but I've never seen one in person. I'd rather plaster a ceiling, than tape, and finish a sheetrock one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 I'm using the UltraLight drywall at Home Depot. The 12 footers are about 55 lbs, much lighter than the regular stuff. What concerned me most before starting was how high I had to lift a sheet to get it onto the lift. The trick is once you lift the sheet, tilt the top of the sheet onto your shoulder/head. Just let it gently fall back onto your shoulder/head. This puts the weight over your entire body instead of just your hands and it automatically tilts the bottom of the sheet higher so you can get it onto the lift. Here's what it looks like. Go to the 10 minute mark. It's very subtle but he's actually resting the top of the sheet on his shoulder as he's carrying it to the lift. This not only makes it lighter but it tilts the bottom of the board higher so you can get it on the lift: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 hours ago, sjeff70 said: I'm using the UltraLight drywall at Home Depot. The 12 footers are about 55 lbs, much lighter than the regular stuff. What concerned me most before starting was how high I had to lift a sheet to get it onto the lift. The trick is once you lift the sheet, tilt the top of the sheet onto your shoulder/head. Just let it gently fall back onto your shoulder/head. This puts the weight over your entire body instead of just your hands and it automatically tilts the bottom of the sheet higher so you can get it onto the lift. Here's what it looks like. Go to the 10 minute mark. It's very subtle but he's actually resting the top of the sheet on his shoulder as he's carrying it to the lift. This not only makes it lighter but it tilts the bottom of the board higher so you can get it on the lift: Thanks for the share! Yeah I did the light weight in the rest of the basement and was able to load even the 1/2"x 54" x 12' sheets but in the theater you want mass to help with the soundproofing and the 5/8"x 4' x 12' sheets are a whooping 106 lbs. Great for soundproofing not so great for my back LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, pkinneb said: Thanks for the share! Yeah I did the light weight in the rest of the basement and was able to load even the 1/2"x 54" x 12' sheets but in the theater you want mass to help with the soundproofing and the 5/8"x 4' x 12' sheets are a whooping 106 lbs. Great for soundproofing not so great for my back LOL. Yes, mass is your friend in a home theater. The problem I have with the ultralight is that it is not as tough as the standard stuff. Rowdy kids (of all ages) will punch holes in it in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, drzaius said: Yes, mass is your friend in a home theater. The problem I have with the ultralight is that it is not as tough as the standard stuff. Rowdy kids (of all ages) will punch holes in it in no time. Yeah you can definitely tell the difference! Honestly other than 5/8" its hard to find drywall that's not lightweight I imagine you can special order it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 9:24 AM, Chestnut said: How tall does his extend and would he be willing to rent it our for a small fee something like $40? I don't want to drywall my garage but i don't know that I'll have a choice. FYI I checked and his lift goes to 11' to go higher you are up into the bigger dollar lift range it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, pkinneb said: FYI I checked and his lift goes to 11' to go higher you are up into the bigger dollar lift range it appears. I need to double check my ceiling height i think an 11 footer will work i had some 12 foot bards in there when stood on end were will into the rafters. I hate 12 foot baords.... The other thing that tall ceilings makes difficult is finishing work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Stilts. All the pros here finish ceilings to about 4 foot rise on stilts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 The drywall is done, well almost still have soffits in the theater but that will be a piece of cake compared to all of this. Started the second layer of drywall the second layer of 5/8" rock gets a layer of Green Glue soundproofing compound before going up All I have to say is this stuff is sticky and I really hope it works LOL. That's a wrap Theater rock is complete except soffits which will be added later Here is a close up of the soundproofing. 2x6" outer wall with 5/8" drywall, decoupled 2x4" wall (1" air gap between walls) with two layers of 5/8" rock with Green Glue between them I'll have to get creative when I make the door and trim for this. Taper started today!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Isn't that GreenGlue great stuff to get on your hand, cloths & tools? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, drzaius said: Isn't that GreenGlue great stuff to get on your hand, cloths & tools? For sure I did pretty good but had a heck of a time getting it off my skin the couple times I bumped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I would guess that things will start to go a little faster now... Maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Man you could throw baseballs against those walls and i'd bet they'd be fine. So is it shop time now to make a vanity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Chet said: I would guess that things will start to go a little faster now... Maybe? It should! I need to finish the exercise room first but that's just paint, drop ceiling, rubber floor tiles and trim so it should go quick.. I am going with the same ones we used in our shops, I think they will work well. Getting that done will allow me to get the equipment out of my wood storage location in the shop. 3 hours ago, Chestnut said: Man you could throw baseballs against those walls and i'd bet they'd be fine. So is it shop time now to make a vanity? This weekend is clean the garage and shop, get the cars out of storage and washed, then hopefully kick back on Sunday. Taper thinks he'll be done Wednesday so hopefully I can get the room painted next weekend, then I can do the ceiling and floor during the week. Then to the shop for cabinets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted April 18, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Well let's just say the professionals work waaay faster than me LOL. One guy two days in... I got tired of moving the door to the exercise room around so I just installed it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Looking great!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Pretty amazing when you have some "been there done that" under your belt. I have done a fair amount of taping and mudding around the house but I would have been weeks just doing all the inside corners you have, even using the corner tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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