Jonathan McCully Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I’m a bit ahead of the game in starting this topic, as I have a couple of other projects in the line up before this one, but I’m hoping to build a woodworking bench next year. Right now, I just have a general purpose garage bench that was my first woodworking project 6 years ago, and now that I know what I’m wanting to do in this hobby (hybrid style work), I’m wanting to build a bench that will better support that work. I’ve been following this guy on YouTube for awhile and like his work, but was curious about your thoughts on his bench. I like the fact that it is hybrid and maybe a bit more versatile than a traditional Roubo bench. Don’t think I’d paint the maple legs though. What do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I know from my work bench and from what i've heard others say, storage under the bench needs to be increased modified or improved. A shaker style bench has a lot of the same stuff as the roubo but adds storage. If i ever make a roubo bench i'll make a storage cabinet that goes under it to store commonly used tools in because with out that the area under the bench is wasted space. Not sure if a deadman is the most useful feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbutcher Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I agree with Chestnut using the dead space under the bench top needs to be better utilized. Im in the process of designing a workbench as well, one that will suit my space, needs, and budget, and im going to design a drawer cabinet to occupy the space under the bench top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Roubo with storage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Bob Posted November 13, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I did a lot of research before I built my bench. I wanted this bench to be the last one I built. While I like to look at everybody's roubo I knew I did not want one, the split top appealed to me but I knew that I would end up disliking it over the long term. One day while talking to @..Kev (before he deserted the unwashed here in Washington ) he suggested a partitioned split top. I ended up making a shaker stile with drawers, and a modified split top to take advantage of the clamping a roubo offers. Combined with a deadman, tail vise, and leg vise my bench is the most used tool in the shop. My point is, research the crap out of what you want, and what you think you will want before you build. A bench is an expensive proposition to get wrong, and doesn't lend itself very well to "do overs". It is also the one tool that you can truly customize. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 If you haven't yet read this, do yourself a favor and read this book; https://www.amazon.com/Workbenches-Revised-Design-Theory-Construction/dp/1440343128 I'm a believer of getting the most storage I can from any empty space, but the openness under a workbench is great for clamping work pieces to the top of the bench. If you fill the space with cabinets than you lose that option. Kev shows a great option, maintaining the openness yet adding some storage to a Roubo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just looking a the video thumbnail, and not watching it, I see two things I would change. (ok, three) 1. Overhang one end only. Having legs flush at one end provides more vertical clamping options, and is especially useful when you don't have room for a 12' long bench. 2. Lose the deadman. The apron side should provide all the edge-up clamping surface you need. That would leave one side open for storage. 3. The full length apron is pointless with a thick, roubo-is top. I woud make the apron tenoned into the legs, set under the top but still flush with the edge. That leaves the overhang free to clamp stuff down on top, without going around to the other side. That gets old with a long bench. I also like a slightly wider bench. Typically narrow benches are too hard to set a chair or stool up on. One leg always scoots off the edge and dumps it into the floor. I don't really care if parts are painted, or not. You're going to beat the crap out of it, or you don't need it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 How does Kev clamp long boards on end without a deadman on that Roubo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, sjeff70 said: How does Kev clamp long boards on end without a deadman on that Roubo? Hold fast in the leg or T-track in the face. However, I've found myself only rarely needing either. Sorry, this was an older picture before those items were installed. This is a picture of my OF table which is set up the same way.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Bob Posted November 14, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, wtnhighlander said: 2. Lose the deadman. The apron side should provide all the edge-up clamping surface you need. That would leave one side open for storage. I respectfully disagree about the deadman, for me, it provides support for larger pieces, whether it is a panel or single piece of wood. Working by myself I need all the help I can get. Using shop made "bench pups", from an article in FWW, creates all kinds of creative work holding ideas. 1 hour ago, wtnhighlander said: I also like a slightly wider bench. Typically narrow benches are too hard to set a chair or stool up on. One leg always scoots off the edge and dumps it into the floor I made my bench 30" wide for that reason, and I can clamp a full sheet of ply to it and cut it with my track saw. Oh and don't forget the paper roll for glue ups and finishing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McCully Posted November 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Just Bob said: I made my bench 30" wide for that reason, and I can clamp a full sheet of ply to it and cut it with my track saw. Oh and don't forget the paper roll for glue ups and finishing. Love the idea of adding width for breaking down sheet goods. Would be nice to do some of that off the floor, especially as I get older. Does your bench have casters for movement? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 The split top is awesome for breaking down sheet goods! Perfect place for the saw blade! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Jonathan McCully said: Love the idea of adding width for breaking down sheet goods. Would be nice to do some of that off the floor, especially as I get older. Does your bench have casters for movement? That picture was taken right after I had finished the bench. I put casters on it because I wasn't sure of how I wanted the bench oriented in my shop. Once I had it placed where I wanted it I took the casters off. I just turned 180 degrees so I could look out a window while I was working. When I made the bench I added an 6" wide apron on the back edge, you can kind of see it here. My intent was to make removable 18" long supports to make the bench a full 48" when cutting ply. I still haven't made the supports, they are on my list of stuff to get done before the end of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Like Kev, I don't have a deadman, and I to use hold fasts for longer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 8:49 PM, Jonathan McCully said: Love the idea of adding width for breaking down sheet goods. Would be nice to do some of that off the floor, especially as I get older. Does your bench have casters for movement? Great looking bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 I built a Roubo using the guild plans, although I shrunk it to 6' and figured out my own vise hardware (to keep the cost down). If I had the space, I would have made it 8'. I love the design, although I would have likely done storage underneath like @..Kev if I was building again. Here is my bench in its current messy state: I personally like the sliding dead man. I use it with wide boards for working on the end (dove tails) and sometimes for working on the edge of a board that is over 4'. I edge joint by hand, so that ends up being my primary use for it. That being said, the English bench style apron could make it unnecessary. I can only use my bench from one side, so that wasn't an option. The split top is nice. I think it's actually less work, so there's no downside. I mostly just use it to hold tools, although I've used it as a planing stop a few times (although there's several options for that). I've had 2 or 3 times where it's helped with a weird work holding situation, and I've done something like clamped a board to the stretcher and had it come up through the split to support a part. Good luck! That looks like a decent bench design. I think the reality is that there's several options that can work. I went with the Roubo through the guild because it's a proven design, and I didn't want to dislike the bench after spending that much time and money on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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