wtnhighlander Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 A good mortising chisel will take care of it, no problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Coyote Jim said: So step one would be: go buy a router. I have possibly been over thinking it (which is my MO). It's really just a mortise with an open side. I could just chop down the side like a standard mortise but I would have the added benefit of being able to split out the waste as I progress down. Think that would work? Didn't know that you did not own a router, that sorta makes you a rare one. However as Ross said, a mortise chisel or for that matter any chisel will do what you ask, just keep your sharpening stones nearby to keep a "very" sharp edge. And treat it like any mortise you would use for constructing a piece.. I'd suggest a piece on the far side clamped tight, to avoid blowout, should you slip during the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I’d knife wall and chisel from either side. Only the very outer but needs to be fussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coyote Jim Posted September 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, RichardA said: that sorta makes you a rare one. Story of my life: I resonate with that picture more than I would like to admit to myself. I use woodworking for the relaxation of it. While I'm not scared to use power tools, I find them far from relaxing. I'm actually looking forward to pounding out all that waste with a chisel for a couple hours tomorrow morning. I'm by no means disparaging power tools, they just happen to stress me out. I have enough stress in my life without them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coyote Jim Posted September 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tpt life said: I’d knife wall and chisel from either side. Only the very outer but needs to be fussy. Too late. Already cut them. Once I remove all that waste we'll see how good I was at cutting. You'll be able to tell how good I did by the pictures I take. If I cut them well then the pics will be some nice close ups. If not, well then some "wide shots" will be in order. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Coyote Jim said: Story of my life: I resonate with that picture more than I would like to admit to myself. I use woodworking for the relaxation of it. While I'm not scared to use power tools, I find them far from relaxing. I'm actually looking forward to pounding out all that waste with a chisel for a couple hours tomorrow morning. I'm by no means disparaging power tools, they just happen to stress me out. I have enough stress in my life without them. I know how you feel, most of my life I've been a one legged man at an ass kicking contest. There was no suggestion that you didn't like power tools, I was merely offering a short cut. Noisy but shorter. I to like hand work more than machine work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 I'm over thinking something again. I made a very short video (less than 2mins) to show you what my question is. Anyone have any good input for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 I don't think so the question i my mind is how difficult is it to make the mortise deeper? If its easy and fast the cost is low and I'd do it to give more strength. I do think there is enough strength there as is, so if expanding the mortise is difficult and there is risk of causing a poor fitting joint then i would abstain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I don't think so the question i my mind is how difficult is it to make the mortise deeper? If its easy and fast the cost is low and I'd do it to give more strength. I do think there is enough strength there as is, so if expanding the mortise is difficult and there is risk of causing a poor fitting joint then i would abstain. Thanks for the quick response Drew. So to deepen the mortise by about 1/4" or so would take 30 minutes to an hour on each one (there are 2). I want the table to last forever, which would make the "cost" negligible. What do you think? Another 1/4" or 1/2"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chestnut Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 So if you went 1/2" deeper you'd have 2" on the highside and 1_3/4" on the low side? That would be worth the hour of work imo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coyote Jim Posted September 23, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 As if this project has not been progressing slow enough already, I need to put it on hold to do some other stuff for the house. BUT, at least it almost actually looks like a table now! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 You just have to do away with the blue end of that board ASAP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Coop said: You just have to do away with the blue end of that board ASAP! Your probably right. I just assumed it would not be a big deal because the humidity stays pretty consistently at around 15% here. We DID get all the way up to 30% for like a day or two a few weeks ago. It was brutal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 So the vertical legs are supposed to be 3" thick? I am goign to embark on making my own conoid derived table. Can you think of a way to laminate material to get 3" thick that wouldn't look awful? I want to make mine out of walnut and 3" thick walnut isn't readily available. For the big center beam i figured i can do a book match. The other material i can just scale down to get them from stock i currently have. The vertical legs though are visible both sides so I'm not sure a book match would work. Even if it would work I'd need a walnut board 11" wide, which is also hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Chestnut said: . Even if it would work I'd need a walnut board 11" wide, which is also hard to find. Drop Spanky a note, maybe he could find that 11" or 12" walnut board you'd need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Chestnut said: So the vertical legs are supposed to be 3" thick? I am goign to embark on making my own conoid derived table. Can you think of a way to laminate material to get 3" thick that wouldn't look awful? I did mine with 12/4 stock. After milling they are around 11/4. I did that because I just don't know any better. 3" very well could be incredibly overkill I just have no idea. Now that I am this far down the trail I feel as if I have overbuilt it. To my eye the vertical legs seem a bit chunky. I'm either going to have to figure out a way to contour them to make them seem more appealing or I will just have to live with them looking thicker than I want. Either way I will still end up with a table. But I am pretty confident that if the legs were only 2.5" they would still be plenty sturdy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Totally missed this thread until just now. Wow, what a great build. Kudos to your hand tool skills! When I first saw the plans for this I assumed they were in inches. What a relief to see that they were in cm. Big difference! Put a slab door on top of it and start using it until you can get back to it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Coyote Jim said: But I am pretty confident that if the legs were only 2.5" they would still be plenty sturdy. In thinking about it If i thinned out everything a bit proportionally i could probably get away with 2" thick legs. The other thought I had after I posed was to make the legs with a strip of cherry running down the middle and 2 skins of walnut on either side. I could make it thin to appear like an inlay or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Chestnut said: In thinking about it If i thinned out everything a bit proportionally i could probably get away with 2" thick legs. The other thought I had after I posed was to make the legs with a strip of cherry running down the middle and 2 skins of walnut on either side. I could make it thin to appear like an inlay or something. That's an awesome idea. It would add such a nice detail. And of course cherry and walnut compliment each other so well. Seriously, that's a home run idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Coyote Jim said: That's an awesome idea. It would add such a nice detail. And of course cherry and walnut compliment each other so well. Seriously, that's a home run idea. Well i guess I'm doing it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Jim Posted September 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 17 hours ago, Mick S said: Totally missed this thread until just now. Wow, what a great build. Kudos to your hand tool skills! Wow thank you! Those are some very kind words. I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Basher Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 On a narrower joint I would use a coping saw but 6 inches is a bit too much for that. You have saw kerfs at the sides. I suggest you put several more kerfs, parallel to these, across the waste area. It will then be much easier to remove the remaining waste with chisels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Averagesavant Posted February 27, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 That table has inspired plenty of people. Here’s my attempt in Mottled 12/4 bubinga for the top on a hard maple base. https://www.averagesavant.com/post/manage-your-blog-from-your-live-site 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Averagesavant said: That table has inspired plenty of people. Here’s my attempt in Mottled 12/4 bubinga for the top on a hard maple base. https://www.averagesavant.com/post/manage-your-blog-from-your-live-site Welcome! That is a beautiful piece! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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