pkinneb Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Awesome job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Nailed it Ben, nice job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted September 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 General Finishes Vintage Cherry Dye Stain Pic is after 1st coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Any General Finishes products I've use have been very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, drzaius said: Any General Finishes products I've use have been very good. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Munford Posted September 29, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Update 9-28-19 Spindles · Spindles: 3 coats Minwax Cherry Penetrating Stain for gloss, Does not stain much, but give nice semi-gloss finish. · Cut 2 26.5” wood planks. Drill hole toward front of planks, 2.5” above table (rear x-mbr: back legs cannot come together during clamping.) Drilled 5/8” holes for ½” threaded rod, so planks can slant against chair legs. Nail & screw cloth on narrow side of planks where they will contact chair legs 9-29-19 Spindles, Install · Arm Chair: I began with the armchair because it is the most worn of the 3 chairs and I was more willing to make a mistake here. · 80 grit sandpaper: I made a roll of this sandpaper and used it to clean out the tenon holes in both cross members (stretchers). Then used air gun on air compressor hose to blowout sawdust. Dry Rag to wipe away. · Titebond III glue: I purchased this because it was the strongest and slowest setting, which gave room for me to make a mistake. Following Thomas Johnson’s example, I put some of the glue in spare jar and used a small paintbrush to dab it and twirl it in the tenon holes. I then followed the same procedure on each tenon. · Install: with the chair on its side and me between the legs, I held the left side of the spindle above the spindle where it would mount and with a twisting motion pushed the right side all the way into place. With the right-side leg behind my back, I pushed the left side leg outward until I could get the left side tenon in its hole. I then stood to the outside of the left side leg and pulled the right side leg toward me while holding the left side leg against my body. In this way the tenon fully installed on both sides. · Glue: use rag dampened with water to wipe away the glue. Before set up (10 hours), this glue is water-soluble. Afterward, it’s waterproof. · Fitment: the fit was so tight that I did not really need a clamp. However, since I had made one and the armchair does not sit flat, I chose to install the clamp anyway, hoping that perhaps the clamping action would even the positions of the legs. (Did not work) · Side Chairs: I followed the same procedure above except I didn’t use a clamp, again because the fit was so tight that I really didn’t need it. Hats off to David the Richmond Wood Turner who did such a superb job making the spindles. $75 and worth every penny. Well done! If anyone needs his contact info, I could certainly provide it. (Not sure if site allows posting name and number of a business owner?) Threw old spindles in the garbage. · Thank you all so much for your help. I will report back on the table. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Very well done Ben, they look like new chairs and I’m sure they will last a very long time, did you get the bug to build something now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Ragatz Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Nice work - can't imagine anyone will be able to tell that's not original! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Really a great job Ben. I would have been reluctant to give it a try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark J Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, G Ragatz said: Nice work - can't imagine anyone will be able to tell that's not original! Of course the real test will be Antiques Road Show. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm impressed that is quite the repair, awesome job!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don't believe anyone could have done any better! What's the story with the transmission? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted September 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 6:38 PM, treeslayer said: Very well done Ben, they look like new chairs and I’m sure they will last a very long time, did you get the bug to build something now? LOL. I don't have the bug to build something. Although the spindles are done, I have the one armchair that needs a different slider so it can sit straight. Another that needs full clean up and Minwax finish. Then, I have 2 more side chairs that are already clean, but that I want to use the Minwax Cherry on to give a nice gloss. My next project is to either repair the finish on the table pictured at the start or remove the finish and refinish it. Plus, carpenter bees attacked the trim on the side of our carport roof. The bees are exterminated, but I need to replace the holy trim board. Everyone: Thanks for all the compliments. Very Encouraging. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Munford Posted September 30, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Tom King said: I don't believe anyone could have done any better! What's the story with the transmission? I rebuilt the transmission to use in a white 1970 Plymouth convertible that I own. The plan is to remove 318/904 and install 440/727 as a unit. Have not rebuilt 440 yet. Need to get a machinist involved there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Very nice Ben, that 440 will really put the wind in your hair with the top down. Going to hot-rod the 440 ? Maybe up the compression and a little bigger camshaft, Holly double pump to feed it, just some suggestions for any extra money you have laying around 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark J Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Then he'd have to re-paint it red, with flames. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark J said: Then he'd have to re-paint it red, with flames. Yeah, and Crager SS mag wheels aren't cheap either, and the list goes on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 A couple of my friends had Cragers but I had to settle for chrome slots on my ‘68 Mustang but they shined! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 All that hot rodding sounds good, just don't name it 'Christine'! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 7:38 PM, treeslayer said: Very nice Ben, that 440 will really put the wind in your hair with the top down. Going to hot-rod the 440 ? Maybe up the compression and a little bigger camshaft, Holly double pump to feed it, just some suggestions for any extra money you have laying around 440 will have 9.5:1 compression. Bigger more torquey cam. Holley 750 vacuum secondary. Sure wish I had extra money laying around. OTOH, then I wouldn't have had the chance to restore these chairs and meet everyone here.I would have just bought something new. How boring is that? On 9/30/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mark J said: Then he'd have to re-paint it red, with flames. Alpine white is the original color. Love it! That's the color it will stay. 21 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: All that hot rodding sounds good, just don't name it 'Christine'! HAHA. Not a chance. The only women in my home are my wife and daughters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 10-1-19 Arm Chairs · Cleaning: used brush thinner and rag to remove black oil from top rail and arms of chair that I did not repair with the spindle. This chair was still in the kitchen until last night when I moved it out to the garage. · Black Water Stains at bottom of legs: I originally thought these stains were paint. But it turns out they are black water stains, probably where someone mopped up against the chair, although the chair could also have been standing in water when it was in storage. Fortunately, the other 5 chairs do not have these black water stains. · I used 240 grit sandpaper to sand the end of the legs in hope of removing the black film. Sue and I both sanded on the legs. The front came out a lot better than the back. The back needs treatment of oxalic acid. · Chair Seat: I had also used the brush thinner on areas of the seat that looked dingy. In one place towards the back of the seat I took it down to bare wood. This proved my undoing. I applied the General Finishes vintage Cherry stain to the area, but the edges where it met the original finish came out looking pink. · I sanded the entire front seat ahead of the groove where the spindles are with 100 grit sandpaper. I then stained the entire seat forward of that groove with General Finishes vintage Cherry stain. I used a paintbrush, dabbed lightly and directly into the can. I used strokes back and forth with the grain of the wood until the seat was covered. Since I was able to keep myself from dipping too much of the brush into the General Finishes Cherry stain, I was able to just brush the excess into the top of the seat. I had very little drip. One coat brought out a nice cherry stain, but it is 2 or 3 shades redder than the original finish. I hope to use the Minwax penetrating cherry stain to add brown tint and semigloss tomorrow. · Left the chair to dry overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ben Munford said: OTOH, then I wouldn't have had the chance to restore these chairs and meet everyone here Well it is a great bunch of people that's for sure, glad to have you join us, and put mechanical secondaries on that carb, much more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Minwax did not help. Now finish is dark red and hazy. The General Finishes & Minwax combo worked perfectly on the spindles. Maybe some kind of treatment in original chair wood that's making only the red in stain show? Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Munford Posted October 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 Did a lot of cleaning with Howard's Golden Oak and 0000 steel wool to get the Minwax off and also Brown tinted the General Finish cherry with the Howard's. Minwax caused hazing and cloudiness on the seat. Applied 3 coats General Finishes water based clear coat. Seat is nicer that rest of chair now. All's well that ends well, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Ragatz Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'd call this project a success - nice job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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