gee-dub Posted September 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 8:32 PM, Chet said: I made a cabinet to go under the left side of the saw and made it to fit with in the legs, I never thought of making in bigger and letting it support the extension. Good idea. Is that a mobil base under the saw or just a base to raise the height of the saw? It is just a riser. I use the tablesaw for a lot of joinery and the stock SS height was a bit low for that work. The table top is about 36" as it now stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 I have thought about doing something like that to my saw but lack the desire to take the saw apart and put it back together again aaaannd I always seem to find some that is more fun to do in the shop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 A pic of all four just to be complete. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Glenn, are those just elevator bolts in a T nut for adjustment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 5:27 PM, wtnhighlander said: Glenn, are those just elevator bolts in a T nut for adjustment? Yes. My typical build for elevator bolts is to recess the t-nut a bit with a Forstner bit, drill a short clearance hole to snug fit the t-nut body and drill the bolt shaft hole so that the threads cut into the wood so there is no slop. I have elevator bolts done this way that have been in service as machine base feet for many years. Out of habit I did these 3/8" elevator bolts the same way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Bumped the router table port to 6". Had to go gorilla with a recip-saw from the motor cavity; not pretty but appropriately sized. The PRL is impatient to get back into the table. This is a duplicate of the milling area vertical floor anchor. This vertical will serve the upper and lower tablesaw, router table plus a gated spare port for ad hoc use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Glenn, maybe I missed it, but what DC unit are you installing? Seems like a pretty big unit is needed to develop any static pressure in a 6" pipe. That's the weak point of my little unit. Flow is good through a big pipe, but no pressure to draw in through the smaller openings around the blades / cutters on my tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 30, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 @wtnhighlander My current unit is a 2HP Grizzly (G0440) which is designed with a 7" inlet. I am hoping to milk some more life out of it with careful 6" duct routing. I built the DC shed scaled for a 5HP in both size and electrical in the event that the 2HP just can't do the job. Here's the t-shirt levitation test at the farthest port: This is how tape measures and safety glasses disappear during DC tests 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, gee-dub said: @wtnhighlander My current unit is a 2HP Grizzly (G0440) which is designed with a 7" inlet. I am hoping to milk some more life out of it with careful 6" duct routing. I built the DC shed scaled for a 5HP in both size and electrical in the event that the 2HP just can't do the job. Here's the t-shirt levitation test at the farthest port: This is how tape measures and safety glasses disappear during DC tests And dentures! (courtesy ParticleBoard) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 9:39 PM, wtnhighlander said: And dentures! (courtesy ParticleBoard) Helluva neat guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 30, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 The router table duct will run nearly on the ground with a 3/16" strip between pipe and concrete. The tablesaw duct will run parallel to this for most of the distance. I was pondering various straps and brackets to hold all this securely. I gave it up yesterday and decided to sleep on it. Is it wrong that I do my best thinking when I am asleep? I decided to do this . . . you set up your tablesaw for cove cutting and take after a piece of stock. The thickness at the thinnest point is 2-7/16". This just turned out to be the measurement accommodating the wye positions and the height of the tablesaw port. The tablesaw duct sets on top like so. I cut the blank into three sections. These have a blob of silicone glue where each pipe sets in the "cradles" of the blocks. This is certainly more than enough support vertically. If the pipes aren't secure enough for my liking once the silicone cures I can add straps. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted September 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 2:23 PM, gee-dub said: Is it wrong that I do my best thinking when I am asleep? I seem to have good luck solving dilemmas while in the shower. I was told that it's not uncommon because a shower tends to relax you. Trouble is my paper and and pencil get wet when I try to write the solutions down. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby W Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Trouble is my paper and and pencil get wet when I try to write the solutions down... So true. Maybe Robin Lee will come up with the Veritas shower writing board or pad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Can’t tell you how many times I have gotten out of bed to jot down notes on a sticky pad and placed near the coffee pot. Especially prior to retirement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 6:24 PM, Robby W said: Trouble is my paper and and pencil get wet when I try to write the solutions down... So true. Maybe Robin Lee will come up with the Veritas shower writing board or pad. Any SCUBA shop will have you covered . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 6:46 PM, Coop said: Can’t tell you how many times I have gotten out of bed to jot down notes on a sticky pad and placed near the coffee pot. Especially prior to retirement. There's a sticky note on my keyboard right now reminding me to frame out the exhaust area of the DC shed. It is common for me to put Post-Its on projects prior to quitting for the day so I don't forget where I was when I start again in the morning. Pathetic but a reality 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 I can live with that but when it comes time for me to down load an app to wake me to go pee, then I will get concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 I don't write notes, but I come up with some of my best solutions about how to do something in my sleep. I know not to worry over such, and that I will wake up tomorrow with the answer. I do a fair amount of walking away early, some days. When I used to have helpers working with me, they knew what the deal was when I said, "Put the tools up, and let's go home". It would always come easier the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Yes, the shower and pre-sleep times are often when ideas happen. But back when I was working, I used to do some of my best thinking when driving, especially the morning commute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Exhaust roughed in. Once I am satisfied the insulation, wallboard and overhead support will go in. I have an adjustable elbow that goes on the outside that I will experiment with. I will also add something to keep the bats and birds from nestling down only to be blasted to the next county when the DC fires up ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted October 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 I'm continuing to move items out as their spots become ready. It's getting to look more and more familiar. Here's a shot of the access way for the ducting created by the outfeed top butting against the tablesaw rear fence rail. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Glenn, when you build accessory tables / cabinets like those, how do you deal with getting the height to match with your saw? Especially the tables with wheels? Is the a hidded adjustment somewhere, or do you shim up the saw to match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 This particular table needed to be mobile and also required some height adjustment capability. It didn't need 'on the fly' adjustability but I did want it to have a decent range since things change. You can see the threaded shafts in the first picture in the preceding post. These are carriage bolts. The "legs" of the top have counterbores and through holes to accept the shafts and nuts. These allow for a range of travel. Shims can be placed between the top/leg assembly and the top of the drawer box/bolts. The top is then tightened down at the shimmed height via the knobs. In this picture from the old shop there are no shims: In the new shop I inserted a 1/4" shim. This has been a good solution for a surface where I need occasional adjustment and mobility. It would not work well for frequent height changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted October 3, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 The second vertical member is in. This was delayed while I experimented with 2-1/2" tablesaw-overarm / router-table-fence collection versus 4". There's a ton of math you can throw at dust collection but I just went for plain old empirical data. That is; a real world test. The 2-1/2" proved best for me in this installation. That picture makes it look like the overhead is "T" connected. It is actually like so . . . You can just ignore the temporary tape and what-not; this is a mid-fabrication shot . I used commercial plastic blast gates in these positions. I had them on hand and things got a little crowded and clumsy when I tried to fit the self-cleaning style that I make myself. We'll see how this goes. A shop is always evolving so if an alteration is required later on it won't be the first or the last. The 2-1/2" hose will also serve the tablesaw overarm in some fashion as yet to be determined. It won't be green painter's tape . Velcro straps are likely the solution here. The aperture into the guard is quite small so I may have to field modify the hose attachment location as well. I don't use the overarm a lot but time will tell. I am now ready to build out the electrical wire ways that will serve the two groups of machines. First I want to play with the 8" adjustable elbow at the DC exhaust to see if I can make the noise more acceptable. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted October 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 My compadre and I took the fence carriage off the jointer and then took the jointer off the base. This allowed us to muscle it onto a dolly and get it into the shop where we reassembled it. Flush with our success we refer-dollied the bandsaw out to the shop. We then surveyed the 600 lb planer . . . hmmm . . . I called my son in law. He muscled it onto a dolly he had brought along and wheeled it out to the shop in nothing flat. We got a little work done on the power as well and hope to have both power risers live by EOD tomorrow. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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