legenddc Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 12:23 PM, Robby W said: I like the way you modified the base. With sanders, it is amazing how much paraphernalia you accumulate. It's not just sanders. It's tablesaws, routers, bandsaws, lathes, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle City WW Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 1:59 PM, gee-dub said: Got the drum sander in. It is surprising how much abrasives weigh if you get enough of them in a small footprint. Do you have build plans for that cabinet? That is awesome! And your new shop space is a dream shop! Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 @Belle City WW I will look back through my SketchUp stuff and see what I have. Probably not highly detailed but, could be helpful. There have been many highlights during this project. Also many compromises and work stoppages. For all the many ups and downs, for all the major phases: framing, electrical, insulation, drywall, and paint . . . for some reason, this . . . has hit me as a major milestone(???). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legenddc Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 Seems like you'd get the same sort of satisfaction putting an engine back into a car you're restoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 I goofed and put this in "what did you do today". For continuity I am putting it here as well. Bumped the tablesaw from 4" to 6". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 That’s a neat adjustable hole saw. I have one of similar intentions but it’s massive and out of balance and scary to use. What is the make of yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Now you've done it. I have been sitting here racking my brains and using my Google-Fu over my morning coffee trying to remember where I even got that thing. I know I got it after the dot-coms crashed and I left Silly-Cone valley so sometime over the last 20 years . . . yeah . . . that narrows it down. I believe it is made in India and is a little crude as such things area. Fringe Groz products seem to ebb and flow in the US at the woodworking shows. It would not surprise me if it was an impulse buy in the mid 2000's at one of the shows. I found a similar (maybe identical) item on the Bay here. If it is any consolation, this one rocks the drill press as well even spinning as slow as 250 RPM. These style of cutters are useful but a little scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Makes me wonder if the balance couldn't be improved by sticking a good sized rare earth magnet on the short arm? Maybe that and a few washers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, gee-dub said: These style of cutters are useful but a little scary. Understatement of the year. You guys have seen me try some pretty sketchy stuff, but those fly cutters are off limits in my shop. Put one in the drill press once, but the slightest imbalance turns it into a whirling dirvish of death. My DP bottoms out at 600 rpm. Pretty sure those things are meant to use in a milling machine, where runout / wobble is practically non-existant, and speed can go down to double-digit rpms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Had a tool and die maker make this one for me, carbide cutter, slowest speed and feed possible and the workpiece clamped very tight, works great but there is still that pucker factor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted September 25, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 This is when it would be nice to have a remote for the drill press so you could leave the room will operating. After the operation was complete it would just be a matter of patching hole in the shop wall and maybe a little touch up paint on the other tools. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 You definitely don't want to operate that thing with one of those ZZ Top beards that are so popular these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted September 26, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 9:03 PM, wtnhighlander said: You definitely don't want to operate that thing with one of those ZZ Top beards that are so popular these days. Ha! My wife recently bought a new must have, $99 fang dangle hair curling device that has a motorized roller brush that winds the hair around it. Her being right handed, the right side went ok. She and I spent 10 minutes untangling the left side. I lmao the whole time. Not making light of the tread mill that is dangerous to kids, but that’s what it reminded me of. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 My first step in setting up a tablesaw is to assure it is in the right spot. Once all the hardware gets bolted on these things get a bit awkward to shift around. I go for level on tablesaw bodies before I add anything else. This gives me a reference point for everything that comes after. For those who haven't done this a few times here is a method I use for putting on wings. A piece of scrap a bit wider than the wing holds it roughly in place while you pinkie-tight the first few bolts. This assumes you put the fence rails on before the wings. Once I have the left wing on and true I add the right. I have enough cast iron sections to build out the side table area. I have done this on other saws and the increased mass is welcome. It will also solve the only bad thing I have ever had to say about the 3HP PCS Saw Stop; the side table is chintzy, made of too soft of a wood for the frame and is basically strong on "show" and weak on reliability. I posted earlier in this thread about my paper dolls for grown ups. They were definitely worth the little time they took to make. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Nice tips on shop layout, Glenn! What brand of pipe clamp are you using in those saw assembly photos? I don't recognize that form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 I am curious as to how far away from the wall you decided to put your saw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 About 78 inches to the blade. My plan was to be able to comfortably cut a 60 inch square sheet of Baltic Birch ply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 The other cast iron wings I have are from my old hybrid saw. The long edge holes match up much as many C-man, Delta, and apparently Saw Stop wings do. The fence rails beyond the position of the stock cast iron wings on the Saw Stop expect the pine framed side table and are not in line or use spacing like my Biesemeyer rails. I remember the fear and trepidation of drilling my first cast iron wing. It literally took me a lot of forum reassurance and worrying until the following day before I performed the anticlimactic operation. I have gotten much more comfortable with field mods over the years. Portable machine shop . Wood table hole in circle, new hole at arrow. Now I just need to do this . . . . . . a few more times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 Apparently all of the restrictions you guys have in California are paying off. I’ve yet to see a pic of a ts top that didn’t look like one from a showroom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 6:27 PM, Coop said: Apparently all of the restrictions you guys have in California are paying off. I’ve yet to see a pic of a ts top that didn’t look like one from a showroom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 There are places in California that have rust inducing weather. The beaches are notorious. I'm 60 or 70 miles inland in a pretty dry area and have been spoiled by this no end. Of course the stock leg mount location would end up right at a spot where a wing rib will interfere. I pondered shifting the last wing over and using some sort of a 3/4" filler strip for about 2 seconds. Then I accepted that I had come this far and it was no time to wimp out now. I will do a field mod on the legs mounts another day. I think this is enough for today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 5:38 AM, wtnhighlander said: Nice tips on shop layout, Glenn! What brand of pipe clamp are you using in those saw assembly photos? I don't recognize that form. I believe I picked those up at the Woodcraft store back in the early 2000s. It’s funny how some things like that stick with you while other more important things seem to slip away… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted September 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 My percolation on how to modify the leg attachment points eventually led me to abandon the legs altogether. I fashioned these blocks from some dimensional lumber. The slot will accept the webbing in the casting under the wings. The height is adjustable. . They will be at the edge of the wing, front and back, where it attaches to the rails. The small block of plywood is just to let me grab a pic of how they work. A larger piece of ply now stretches front to back to distribute the weight. I can't tell you how long I have waited to see this all together again. The accessory cabinet acting as the table support gives the saw a sort of gravity defying look 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Excellent use of the storage cabinet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 I made a cabinet to go under the left side of the saw and made it to fit with in the legs, I never thought of making in bigger and letting it support the extension. Good idea. Is that a mobil base under the saw or just a base to raise the height of the saw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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