Popular Post Coop Posted June 9, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Or a cabinet that goes below a new tv. I want to replace an older armoire housing a smaller flat screen, in a living area that gets little use with a larger tv. It has out grown it’s usefulness as it seems that the tv is not as large as it once was and the sound, not nearly as loud and clear! I’m attempting to build a close proximity to this. Changes to be made are three to four drawers up the center and doors the full height, eliminating the three horizontal open areas across the top. It seems pretty simple with 7 glued up panels, top, sub-top, bottom, two end and two center. Then a couple of doors and the drawers. What could possibly go wrong? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Looking forward to it, Ken! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I’m in for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I need to build one too, but no way in the foreseeable future with more important things ahead of it on the to-do list. Back when we went to a much larger TV, we just bought a cheap one from Walmart thinking we'd replace it in the future. It's sagging, doors don't move good etc., and it's the only "new' piece of furniture in our house which is otherwise all antiques. We're stuck with it for a while though. The only thing I can offer is if you are considering a sound bar. We have a Bose in our house, and a Yamaha in the rental house. The Yamaha is noticeably better, especially in clearer speech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Looks like a fun project. Great to have a nice looking home for all the stuff we'd rather not see when watching TV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 This looks like a fun project. Are you going to put glass in the doors or wood panels. +1 on the sound bar, way better sound quality then the TV's speakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I think a dark tinted glass will look good with the maple heart wood I will be using. Sound bar for sure but I was kind of being facetious about the size and sound. Glasses and those hearing aids would probably help those issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 9:57 AM, Coop said: Glasses and those hearing aids would probably help those issues! About a year and a half ago my sister in law developed a really bad allergy to dust and it affected her eyes more then anything. While her eye doctor and medical doctor were getting this figured out for her, the way it affected her eyes, she had use binoculars to watch TV. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 I can’t even imagine. I watch very little tv but thru binoculars, I would have to give it up completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 As I have been working on the panels a couple of weeks and won’t bore you with panel glueups, a little backstory on the wood selection. A few years ago, I bought some “tiger maple, heart wood from @Spanky as well as some nice ambrosia maple that he shipped to me. The following year, my wife and drove to Tennessee and he gave me a very nice sapwood piece of curly maple. As I have a limited supply of the Tiger maple, my goal was to have the ends of the cabinet from it, buy soft maple from a local and band the edges from the remaining Tiger maple. Due to a mixup from my wood guy, I ended up with ash instead of maple, only to be discovered after I posted a pic on here and thanks to a couple of you and @phinds. So I banded ash instead of maple. This is one of a few times that I wish I had an 8” jointer as the boards were 8.25” wide. And am glad I have an open ended drum sander. All except the top have been glued and sanded. The top, to be made of walnut, are resting and waiting for final dimensioning. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 11, 2022 With all of the panels that required the 1/2” banding completed and cut to width on the ts, I had to rely on a straight edge and circ saw to cut the sub-top and bottom to length. The vertical panels were cut on my miter sled. As all 6 pieces are the same width, I made a story stick to mark for the mortises for the domino tenons. The first and last mortise on each board were made using the right and left stop pins on the Domino. I have never used the Domino to make butt joints and after watching several YouTube videos, I decided I had ought to make a test piece. I’m glad I did as I almost messed it up. Even using blue tape to mark everything, I ended up cutting the mortises in the face of the bottom n the wrong side. I used the second slop setting on all but the first cuts so the patches had to be hand cut and sawn flush. Grooves were then cut on the ts to receive the back 1/4” panels. Shelf pin holes in the two areas behind the doors were located with a jig. To prevent wallowing out the guide hole, I used a 1/4” Fortsner bit and tapped the top to make my hole locations. Then to the drill press to drill them out. After going to Rockler today to buy a couple more pair of pipe clamps, it’s time to start pieces into place. Bring on the glue! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 11, 2022 Report Share Posted June 11, 2022 Nice work Coop yep bring on the glue ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 13, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 I recently bought some TB hide glue, thinking that the glue up was going to be tedious. Yesterday, while mulling a bit over a cold one, I thought of a simpler but slower method. I attached the center dividers to the bottom with the dominos and slid the back 1/4” ply panel down into the grooves coated with glue. I am adding aprons, if you will, across the top inside in the back and the back panel is glued to it also. Out of the clamps. The sub-top is glued up and will come out of the clamps tomorrow. And speaking of the sub-top, a couple of you in another post somewhere, suggested I make in the form of a web frame to lighten the load. I could make like a typical web frame as I needed to attach it to the sides and in doing so, it would hinder any wood movement the sides might have. However, now that this is a solid panel with grain going the same way, I will remove the areas on the sub-top, marked with an X, after the sides are attached. So thanks for the thought! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 This is coming together quite well. After all the questions you've asked about this project I'm excited to see how it turns out. I'm still very surprised that you got ash instead of soft maple. in 10 years time you might regret using it inside this case instead of saving it. EAB is wiping out ash trees at a rapid pace and eventually we won't have many left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Moving right along and looking good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 15, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 Per my Titebond Hide Glue thread, I am waiting to hear back from the young lady in the customer service department about the age of my glue. She insist that the issue date has an A for America in front of the numbers and mine does not. I sent her a pic of the code. In the mean time, I went to Hobby Lobby and bought a piece of foam construction board to compare different drawer configurations. My wife and I both decided that 4 ea. equal size drawers look the best. For the drawer fronts, I have been considering ambrosia maple or some lighter sap wood curly maple. The curly maple is not much darker than the construction board and will really stand out too much and the ambrosia will blend in better with the sides, door frames and the walnut top. Todays progress, while waiting from a call back from Titebond, was to break down some 4/4 maple boards for the drawers. Got them down to 3/4” and stickered to rest for a day or two. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 Looking good so far my friend. It's making me want to get back in the shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 11:10 PM, Chet said: Looking good so far my friend. It's making me want to get back in the shop. Thanks. And you need too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 16, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 I planed the 3/4” drawer sides down to 9/16” and cut them to size. As the center section that hold the drawers is almost square, the drawer fronts, backs and sides are all the same length which sure makes a long winded operation a little simpler. These will be joined together with box joints cut on my Rockler jig. After several years of using this, I finally decided to get a spiral upcut bit. The brass spacer bar helps to insure even spacing. I also found that if after moving the piece thru the bit, picking it up and bring it back instead of brining it back thru the bit results in no tear out. A 1/4” groove was then cut on the router table to the insides to support the bottoms. Parts ready to be sanded and assembled. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 11:47 AM, Coop said: I also found that if after moving the piece thru the bit, picking it up and bring it back instead of brining it back thru the bit results in no tear out. Good tip, Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted June 19, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 I I got all of my drawer boxes together, then out of the clamps. I waited until these were glued up to cut the groove in the sides for the slide rail, just in case cutting another groove would cause any last minute funky wood movement. These were cut on the ts with the dado stack, 1/2” wide by 1/4” deep. I fine tuned the runners on the drum sander and with the help of a spacer, got them installed. I also got the left side of the cabinet in place and held together wide hide glue and clamps. I’m having second thoughts about adding additional drawer fronts. This will save me money on drawer pulls! Next up will be the doors. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Looks awesome my friend and if you get FWW magazine the current issue has an excellent article on making your own pulls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotrob Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 8:40 PM, Coop said: Or a cabinet that goes below a new tv. I want to replace an older armoire housing a smaller flat screen, in a living area that gets little use with a larger tv. It has out grown it’s usefulness as it seems that the tv is not as large as it once was and the sound, not nearly as loud and clear! I’m attempting to build a close proximity to this. Changes to be made are three to four drawers up the center and doors the full height, eliminating the three horizontal open areas across the top. It seems pretty simple with 7 glued up panels, top, sub-top, bottom, two end and two center. Then a couple of doors and the drawers. What could possibly go wrong? Made a box to fit my 52 inch TV many years ago solid oak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 It looks like I need to rethink these runners. They are attached with wood screws which leave no room for wood movement for the panels to which they are attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 10:23 AM, Coop said: They are attached with wood screws which leave no room for wood movement for the panels to which they are attached. What about leaving the center screw hole as is and making the two end holes in the runners oblong, that should allow for what you need. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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