Stickly / Shaker hybrid display cabinet


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On 5/18/2024 at 7:33 PM, wtnhighlander said:

There is a strong 3/8" difference in the diagonals now, and no way is it going to rack back into shape. I'm considering my options for going forward.

Just to poke at the assumption - you got it out of square putting on the face frame, what makes you so sure you can't rack it back?

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3 hours ago, Von said:

Just to poke at the assumption - you got it out of square putting on the face frame, what makes you so sure you can't rack it back?

The face frame is 2" wide, glued solidly, and has splines is strategic spots. I'm pretty certain something would break before it shifted back into proper alignment. 

But I'll certainly give it a nudge, just to be sure.

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Having this happen is disappointing but some variation of it happens to us all at some point.  I normally make my inset door and drawer fronts a tight fit or a bit oversize.  This lets me fit them to the opening.  I agree that at this scale a slightly out of square door made to fit the opening would be pretty invisible unless you point it out.  You may need a little more generous reveal to allow the hinges to work correctly.  You can also taper an edge of the door frame, front to back, if the swing is a problem at a given location. On smaller cabinets I tend to go for a smaller reveal and will taper the edge opposite the hinges as a normal part of the door fitting.

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On 5/18/2024 at 11:28 PM, wtnhighlander said:

The face frame is 2" wide, glued solidly, and has splines is strategic spots. I'm pretty certain something would break before it shifted back into proper alignment. 

But I'll certainly give it a nudge, just to be sure.

Ah, the face frame is out of square too, not just the carcass. Yeah, I see now. Never mind.

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On 5/20/2024 at 6:41 AM, wtnhighlander said:

saw the face frame off through the glue line

The saw will not make a good glue joint. Saw it and leave the glue line and a touch more. Then a straight fluted router bit with a straight edge could make a better glue joint.

If the joint is well milled, then glue alone will do it.

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On 5/21/2024 at 8:40 AM, Chestnut said:

What style of doors are you making? Overlay? Inset?

Either way make the doors oversize and trim. For a large opening 3/8" difference on the diagonal doesn't sound like much. None of my inset doors are square, not a single one I've made ever. I make them all over size and trim to fit. I've had a 1/2" difference in width on an 18" door disappear.

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On 5/29/2024 at 5:12 PM, wtnhighlander said:

To those who may read this, beware the pitfalls of extensive, complex glue-ups! Break them down into smaller steps whenever possible.

Very true.  My wife is a good helper for complex glue- ups.  Even though I could have done some glue-ups with her help, I often break the process down into more manageble steps.

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