The Nut House V2

[Chestnut]

1 hour ago, bushwacked said:

Just saw this ... what do you mean 6” gets heavy losses in the 1300cfm range? 

What Steve said but to clarify think of air like cars going down the highway. When there are only 1 or 2 cars it's easy to go 100 mph but after you get 100 cars on the highway it's harder to go 100 mph. Pentz rates 6" at like 800 cfm but i find that awfully conservative that's the velocity necessary to keep chips in the air column moving strait vertical. Using Pentz spreadsheet 6" ducting starts getting very large amounts of resistance around 1100-1200 cfm. Around that 1200 cfm the air inside the pipe is moving 75 mph.

Oh also for those that are curious. I measured the amp draw with the gates in the position i had them when i was plane and i was getting close to FLA (Full load amps). I tested the amperage with the various ports open and the draw was always around 9-10. With all gates open i was pulling 12.5-13 amps which i think is slightly overloading the motor. 2 gates open i was in the 10.75-11.25 so i could reasonably work in my shop with another person some day.

[wdwerker]

I usually have 2 hoses hook up to my router table, one on the fence and one on the enclosed base.  The SawStop I am looking at has one on the blade guard and one on the base. You could crack open a gate farther from the machine you are using .

[Chestnut]

17 hours ago, wdwerker said:

I usually have 2 hoses hook up to my router table, one on the fence and one on the enclosed base.  The SawStop I am looking at has one on the blade guard and one on the base. You could crack open a gate farther from the machine you are using .

I've been running with a good 4" port in the fence and it works VERY well i rarely get more then a couple chips under the table. Those over arm blade guard collector things look really nice i tried search for them but it appears that they are no longer made.

[wdwerker]

The one Rockler had isn't available anymore but Grizzly has one

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Universal-Overarm-Blade-Guard-For-Table-Saws/T10113?gclid=CjwKCAiAu4nRBRBKEiwANms5W3WItAH0AxQcUNHD2Ba4bh8zAHdRxvnQEgI9GRO_2UxONOoBiLGCNhoCfBwQAvD_BwE&utm_campaign=zPage&utm_source=grizzly.com#

[Chestnut]

Well apparently i'm terrible at searching for things. I'll ad that to the list of things i want.

[Chestnut]

Going to use this thread for shop updates and upgrades. I am currently working on an out feed table for the table saw. I've never had one and boy was i painfully aware of what i was missing. I sized it so i can use the space between the table and the wall for something i don't know what yet probably wood storage. I made most of the outfee table out of some random hardwood beams i got from my friend that worked construction. The stuff is junk but i was able to snag a lot of it and always intended on using it for shop furniture. It's a blend of red oak, white oak, and ash with some elm, hickory, and maple mixed in. At least this is what i think. I barley made a dent on the pile i have to make this table.

Cleaned up the shorter pieces went over them with wire brush then sandpaper to get any debris off before they saw the joitner and planer. Checked everything with a magnet and a metal detector ya know belt and suspenders approach.

The lengths were weird for the size i wanted to make so i made 2 slabs and joined them end to end. The pieces were 23" long and i was able to make the slabs 26" wide I thought a 23"x50" table so i got a 26"x46" top.

I didn't attach the table top to the saw i just used some elevator bolts in T nuts in the ends of each leg. This method worked great for leveling.

I didn't take a picture of it but i just used some plywood scraps to hold the top to the base with screws and elongated holes. Now i'm working on drawers. 1 drawer is 2.5" deep and the other is going to be 4.5" deep. I still have 3 drawers to make. I don't know what i'm going to face the drawers with either. I might use scraps glued together so it could get some crazy racing stripe action going on.

 

[..Kev]

Looking good..  Don't forget to cut some grooves in the top to match your saw..

[Chestnut]

Just now, TIODS said:

Looking good..  Don't forget to cut some grooves in the top to match your saw..

Yeah trying to use my miter gauge last night reminded me of that. Luckily the table slides pretty easy while it's still light.

[..Kev]

I made a jig to do mine and made them a little wider to allow for the table to move a little.  Even as big and heavy as mine is, it still moves a little now and then.

[Chestnut]

3 minutes ago, TIODS said:

I made a jig to do mine and made them a little wider to allow for the table to move a little.  Even as big and heavy as mine is, it still moves a little now and then.

I got the idea to do the top laminated the way i did from your build. I like the idea of the added weight to help keep it in place.

[..Kev]

2 minutes ago, Chestnut said:

I got the idea to do the top laminated the way i did from your build. I like the idea of the added weight to help keep it in place.

Thanks..  I didn't enjoy it so much when we moved..  7 guys were able to get it off the truck tho.

 

[Chestnut]

24 minutes ago, TIODS said:

Thanks..  I didn't enjoy it so much when we moved..  7 guys were able to get it off the truck tho.

 

I wish i could have gotten 7 guys on my jointer when i moved that in. It was me and 2 others and that was not enough people. I still feel terrible for having my friends help me. I learned from my mistake next time, i'm hiring a moving crew, i don't have enough friends to crush one under a piece of heavy equipment.

[mat60]

Your out feed table is coming along nicely.. Being I don't like to spend allot on shop stuff if I can help it makes your table even better to me.. Glad your enjoying your new shop.

[Chestnut]

2 minutes ago, mat60 said:

Your out feed table is coming along nicely.. Being I don't like to spend allot on shop stuff if I can help it makes your table even better to me.. Glad your enjoying your new shop.

Oh i'm loving it. Though it's starting to feel small FAST. I need to build a shed for long term wood storage and get rid of my wood rack down there. Most expensive part is the half sheet of ply on the sides and the $100 i spend on BB drawer slides.

[ClassAct]

2 hours ago, Chestnut said:

I wish i could have gotten 7 guys on my jointer when i moved that in. It was me and 2 others and that was not enough people. I still feel terrible for having my friends help me. I learned from my mistake next time, i'm hiring a moving crew, i don't have enough friends to crush one under a piece of heavy equipment.

I think equipment should include a listing for how many middle-aged guys it takes to lift it. You and your two friends would be the equivalent of six+ middle-aged guys, so maybe you need ten middle-aged guys to lift the jointer?

(I can poke fun at middle-aged guys because I'm one myself. I sure can't lift or wrestle what I could when I was 25.)

[wdwerker]

After moving my shop I realized if I can't roll it w 2 guys then either take it apart or hire someone. 

[Chestnut]

So i got the drawers done and i filled up 3 of the 5 and the top one is'n't really full as it is more how i want it to stay open and organized. I need to do drawer fronts but i'm going to try and use scraps for those so it'll be a while untill i get those done.

I got some really good shop orgo going and have a good idea of where i can move some stuff. I also cleaned out under the stairs and moved the paint to a better place and throw away some old stuff from the previous owners that the lady of the house never wants put back on the walls.

Next up is adding a H3nry style vise to my interim workbench until i make a proper one. Odd are this one will work well for a long time.

[Coop]

That is really a cool build Nut! The drawer contents look so clean and organized but, that close to the activity, they won’t be clean long without drawer fronts. Make them next on your list. 

[RichardA]

On 12/29/2017 at 12:38 PM, ClassAct said:

I think equipment should include a listing for how many middle-aged guys it takes to lift it. You and your two friends would be the equivalent of six+ middle-aged guys, so maybe you need ten middle-aged guys to lift the jointer?

(I can poke fun at middle-aged guys because I'm one myself. I sure can't lift or wrestle what I could when I was 25.)

@classAct... I'm well passed middle aged, and I've noticed that 100 pound bags of dog food now weigh almost double, and it's still marked 100 pounds...  Someones lying.

[shaneymack]

Drew steel, when did you get the pj882hh? I totally missed that. We are family now :-)

Shop is looking awesome !

[Chestnut]

50 minutes ago, shaneymack said:

Drew steel, when did you get the pj882hh? I totally missed that. We are family now :-)

Shop is looking awesome !

It was partly your recommendation that set me firmly in buying the PJ. I bought it immediately after i moved. This was in the period that i needed a break from distractions aka anything social media. I made a good chunk of change from remodeling my last house so i told myself the PJ was my reward. The rest of the money i made rolled over in to the new house. I'll post some entertaining pictures from me moving it which was interesting.

On the trailer at acme, forklift operator was not confidant in the load rating of my trailer until i showed him the tag that said it was rated for 2,000 lbs.

Unloading was tricky used all sorts of blocking jacks and straps to do it as safely as possible.

As soon as i got it down and uncrated it was broken into pieces to be carried into the shop. I almost pinned my friend between the jointer and the wall in my house. After this i vow to never ask friends to move machinery again.

[shaneymack]

That crate looks hilarious in the trailer. How do you like the jointer? 

[Chestnut]

3 minutes ago, shaneymack said:

That crate looks hilarious in the trailer. How do you like the jointer? 

It's a dream come true. Even after taking it apart and moving it the calibration was perfect and it just works. I'm sure those felder guys would find something to complain about but i don't have eurokit money.

[Alan G]

Drool. On the short list for sure!

[RichardA]

My keyboard is all sloppy wet.