Popular Post Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 New house new basement shop. Thought I'd give a tour but combine it with a "Hey i bought a new thing" and "This is my current project" Here is the sketchup overview of my plan. I've already changed a lot from this point but it was a huge help in getting me started. Stairs into the shop are by the shelf. My miter station is where the shelf is. Miter station and random storage. Yes the blade guard is off, please look the other direction. View from the miter saw towards the big tools. I have a tossed together pine work bench that some day will become an assembly table when i get around to building my penultimate bench because i'm sure i'll still find things to improve upon after i build my next one. Assembly table, clamp rack, electrical, and festool station. This is how i had my big tools set up before i made my most recent big purchase. A view into the dark corner. And this is what i put there. 3hp Dust Gorilla Pro. I decided upon PVC duct work because i felt the layout was easy and i wanted to get the system running right away. I'm sure doing a design and shipping duct from Oneida would have been awesome but I'm sure that the PVC will work just fine. This view shows more of the layout I'm going to stick with. The downside to PVC ... What a mess! Well my whole shop is really messy. I need to build more storage and get organized but that's a lot of work and time. I'll get there eventually. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Think hard about fixing / replacing that miter saw guard . Mistakes with that much blade exposed usually involve more than one finger. Shop is looking good ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Really moving along. That looks like a great decompression chamber for some relaxing woodworking time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 very nice! So did you ground the PVC anywhere or just going to deal with the shocks if/when they come along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, bushwacked said: very nice! So did you ground the PVC anywhere or just going to deal with the shocks if/when they come along? From the research I've done grounding it isn't going to amount to much help in that department. When it's running we'll see how much of an issue it is and I'll address it from there. Beings that PVC isn't conductive i was thinking of trying to find a coating that is conductive and spreading it over the whole pipe. Haven't done research yet on it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 oh interesting ... yes I will definitely be interested in hearing how it goes and how you feel the static is ... I am wanting to set my shop with that PVC as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, bushwacked said: oh interesting ... yes I will definitely be interested in hearing how it goes and how you feel the static is ... I am wanting to set my shop with that PVC as well I just crunched the numbers on the cost. Comparing cost the PVC isn't a whole lot cheaper but i imagine that it's easier to work with. Being able to cut lengths to exactly what i need them makes things easy. The design service might make buying a system just as easy but i opted to go this way. It was really nice to be able to run to the store and grab the item i forgot or didn't see that i'd need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 hmmm I guess the big decision point is if I know my shop will change or is pretty permanent in the positions the machines are in. PVC would be easier to update and customize for my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Is the dust gorrila new or have you had it up and running before? I am thinking of buying the same unit and I am interested in opinions. The shop looks pretty good. Are there any vents into that area? Are you going to do any special precautions around your (presumed) air handler to keep dust from going elsewhere in the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, minorhero said: Is the dust gorrila new or have you had it up and running before? I am thinking of buying the same unit and I am interested in opinions. The shop looks pretty good. Are there any vents into that area? Are you going to do any special precautions around your (presumed) air handler to keep dust from going elsewhere in the house? I have no air returns to the HVAC system in the basement but there is one vent for sending air. As of yet I've been running an HF 5 micron DC and there has been little to zero dust getting in the house. I had a lengthy conversation with my girlfriend about the dust and her opinion of the shop in the basement. Megan's concerns were minimal because nothing had escaped the basement that we had noticed in 4 months. I have no concerns, my last shop was next to the HVAC had far more dust and never impacted the system. I change my filter more frequently than recommended. I fired up the Oneida collector last night for the first time and the suction through the 6" port by my bandsaw was shocking. This system easily doubles the airflow from the HF 2hp unit. I brought my hand close to the port and when it was an inch away it sucked my hand into the pipe much to my surprise. My opinion of the unit over all is this. It's well designed and well built. The cyclone it's self seems like it's a bit more simple than what i can see of the cleavue. The clearvue has an internal ramp that directs the air stream down the cyclone body. Also the inlet on the CV system seems to be more tangential than the OAS cyclone. I made the decision to go with the Oneida system solely because i didn't want to run a 5hp unit. I figured running a 3hp unit closer to it's design capacity would work better than under running a 5hp unit. I also thought the detailed specs on the Oneida filters were slightly better than that of the CV system. Also i like that Oneida doesn't do the addon BS that CV does and i liked the stand over wall mounting The unit you buy has everything ready to go. I added a remote which was wired and fuctional out of the box. Unfortunately or fortunately, i think i got one of the last 3hp gorilla pro units from Oneida. The day after i ordered they updated their site to only show the smart boost collector. The upside is that the new collector is undeniably better and is (with the sale price) only $100 more. I'm almost wishing that the sales guy had mentioned the other unit to me because i would have bought it but i didn't know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: I brought my hand close to the port and when it was an inch away it sucked my hand into the pipe much to my surprise. I don't know if it's fact or legend, but one of the old members (Don, I think?) actually had his dentures sucked up by his dust collector. If it's not true, it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, drzaius said: I don't know if it's fact or legend, but one of the old members (Don, I think?) actually had his dentures sucked up by his dust collector. If it's not true, it should be. I heard that legend a few times. I didn't really understand that i wasn't a joke at all until last night. I could probably create a fun game of "Will it suck!?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Tom C. lost his anemometer in his system when he was checking its flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I could probably create a fun game of "Will it suck!?" I see this going downhill really quickly haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd711 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, drzaius said: I don't know if it's fact or legend, but one of the old members (Don, I think?) actually had his dentures sucked up by his dust collector. If it's not true, it should be. Of course it's true, it's on the internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, bushwacked said: I see this going downhill really quickly haha Ahh now that i reread that i think a new name is probably needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd711 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Very nice setup. Just looking at that pic of your miter saw made me pucker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Congrats on new home and shop. I have just PVC and it has never been a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, pdacey08 said: Very nice setup. Just looking at that pic of your miter saw made me pucker. I don't know why everyone fixates on that. I Installed an internet blade guard on the saw just to make people feel better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted November 28, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think people fixate on it because it is really unsafe to operate it that way. Think kick back, it can happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 14 hours ago, Chestnut said: I don't know why everyone fixates on that. I Installed an internet blade guard on the saw just to make people feel better. See and I wouldn't have even noticed. But I Did read every comment hoping to figure out why your mitre saw is being censored. Though you may have bought one of those NSFW blades.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 14 hours ago, Chet said: I think people fixate on it because it is really unsafe to operate it that way. Think kick back, it can happen. On that very same saw, I experienced a serious kick back while making a chop cut thinking that the sliding mechanism was locked... but it wasn't. I'd prolly lost a body part if it wasn't for the blade guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Any ways. I got blast gates installed and the flex hose ran to most of my tools. This system is probably overkill for my needs but is going to keep my shop much cleaner. The suction on my bandsaw was working great until the blade decided to snap. Typically i'd get some shavings to pop out of the jointer at random places and now it stays squeaky clean. The collection at my table saw is improved as well. This shouldn't be surprising but it really is. As i was cleaning up i noticed that dumping the dust bin is NOT going to be the most fun adventure where it's located, that's a problem for future me. I'm still using 4" ports on all my tools which i know is a bottle neck but i tried to keep the 4" as short as possible. This does leave me wondering if i'm starving the cyclone for air to operate efficiently. I'm thinking of keeping at least 1 additional gate half open but i have no idea where to begin guessing how much flow is going through the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 19 hours ago, Chestnut said: I heard that legend a few times. I didn't really understand that i wasn't a joke at all until last night. I could probably create a fun game of "Will it suck!?" Just for kicks I tried 4" chunks of 2x4 & up they went. Made a lot of noise on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 57 minutes ago, Chestnut said: Any ways. I got blast gates installed and the flex hose ran to most of my tools. This system is probably overkill for my needs but is going to keep my shop much cleaner. The suction on my bandsaw was working great until the blade decided to snap. Typically i'd get some shavings to pop out of the jointer at random places and now it stays squeaky clean. The collection at my table saw is improved as well. This shouldn't be surprising but it really is. As i was cleaning up i noticed that dumping the dust bin is NOT going to be the most fun adventure where it's located, that's a problem for future me. I'm still using 4" ports on all my tools which i know is a bottle neck but i tried to keep the 4" as short as possible. This does leave me wondering if i'm starving the cyclone for air to operate efficiently. I'm thinking of keeping at least 1 additional gate half open but i have no idea where to begin guessing how much flow is going through the system. Yeah, navigating back away from the lecture hall.. The shop looks great. I'm a bit jelly of the new dc. Mine is about a foot and a half in the ground. Bummer those 4x's come down straight in the middle of the room. Looks like your setup works around it nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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