Chestnut Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Man your moving so dang fast on this. I feel like i hit a wall on the morris chairs the curved shoulders and through tenons are awfully slow operations for me at least. 10 hours ago, pkinneb said: t was only 10 degrees again here The pickup was extra angry last night when i left my friends house and it was -5. Looks like we have 40 on wednesday might it be warming up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Gorgeous wood! Gorgeous piece! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 19 hours ago, drzaius said: I just love this build. Beautiful wood, great design & execution. Thanks for sharing. Thank you! Rodel definitely has some nice designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted February 12, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Chestnut said: Man your moving so dang fast on this. I feel like i hit a wall on the morris chairs the curved shoulders and through tenons are awfully slow operations for me at least. The pickup was extra angry last night when i left my friends house and it was -5. Looks like we have 40 on wednesday might it be warming up? Thank you! I am enjoying your Morris chair build as I will be tackling that one later this year myself, but only one I saw that 40 on Wednesday as well, Nice! 9 hours ago, Tom King said: Gorgeous wood! Gorgeous piece! Thanks Tom! Well as usual I didn't get as far as I wanted but good progress non the less. First up was to flush the last squares to the rest of the panel, you can see I have done the lower one and there is one more row to do in this pic. I made sure the grain was aligned so that this could be done with a plane. Next up was to notch the edges of the shelf at the table saw Then crossed my fingers and hoped it fit...I can live with that I just had to throw the top on for a quick peak Ok back to work. I realized the board I picked out for the corbels was going to be to short and although I could get two out of it the grain would be different when viewed from the same side. I decided I had to much into the build to go with that so I decided to re-saw another piece this way if you're looking at the coffee table from one side the grain on both corbels will be the same. Now for a short commercial I know these blades won't hold a candle to a carbide tipped blade from a durability stand point but for sub $30 bucks you have to admit this is a pretty nice cut...two thumbs up to the 1/2" Highland Woodworking wood slicer blades Next I milled the top supports to final dimension and shot the ends for a nice square start to some dovetails I laid out the DT's with a knife and then used a .3mm pencil to highlight the line for my old eyes. I find this fine lead to breakable for most tasks but it works great for this Next I marked the ends with a marking gauge Then laid out the DT's in red pen again for my aging eyes (I learned this from Rob Cosman) Next I cut the shoulders on the TS and the angles at the bandsaw I cleared the waste with a fret saw then chopped them to the line with chisel and a mallet One last thing I did was cut an 1/8" off the bottom of the tales which will make alignment easier. I did this on the table saw before changing the fence after cutting the shoulders. You can see they sit down better for marking the sockets After marking them out back to the chisel and a mallet to clear the waste...good thing these will never be seen because this one is really bad Getting better maybe by number four tomorrow I will actually have something respectable LOL. Oh well like I said other then me and a few friends on this forum no one will ever see them. Should be able to finish the top supports tomorrow... then just the corbels, glue up, and the finishing process remain 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradpotts Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Looking great! I really like the design on the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Moving right along and looking good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Thanks Guys! Not much time tonight but I was able to get the DT's done on the stretchers...unfortunately they didn't get much better really glad they won't be seen. I did use a forstner bit to hog out some of the waste in this set which worked well. Then I used the jointer to add a 45 angle on the bottom edges of the stretchers All that's left on the stretchers is to pre-drill the holes for the screws to attach the top Next up the corbels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 That dry fit really shows of how well you designed this. It's going to be beautiful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 That shelf looks "marvelous " ! ( I'm hearing Billy Crystal doing an accent, just can't remember the details) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, RichardA said: That dry fit really shows of how well you designed this. It's going to be beautiful. Thanks Richard! To be clear this is a Kevin Rodel design I am just doing my best to copy it well 4 hours ago, wdwerker said: That shelf looks "marvelous " ! ( I'm hearing Billy Crystal doing an accent, just can't remember the details) Thanks Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 It just dawned on me, is this the table that was on the cover of FWW a couple of years back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Chet said: It just dawned on me, is this the table that was on the cover of FWW a couple of years back? Yes FWW Jan/Feb 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 First thing up today was to drill some counter sunk holes in the top supports Next up was to lay out the corbels Then I cut the tongue along the back side and fit it to the dado with a shoulder plane After that I cut out the curves Then grabbed the rasps and sand paper to finish the curves I added a slight bevel with a block plane to clean up the edge and finally I cut the two corbels to length Here are pics of both the left and right corbels you can see why the grain needs to match when looking at them from one side of the table if not it would really stick out. The only thing left is to bevel the bottoms to fit through the shelf mortises once the shelf is glued in. That wraps up construction on to final finish prep, glue up, and then on to fuming hopefully Saturday. I will have to make a tent the one I have is not big enough for this table but that won't take but 30 minutes or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Paul, I know this is the table from FWW and you said you are working from plans. Do you like the plans that FWW puts out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Man the corbels are enormous. I like the design how they go through the shelf mortise. This whole design looks like it could be made to flat pack. Put a sliding dovetail on the corbels and it would lock the shelf in place the dovetails on the top stretchers would hold the base together well with the bottom shelf and then attach the top. Can't wait to see if fumed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Chet honestly you could make this project from just the magazine article but for $16 the plans they are nice. I have bought three sets this project, my tool chest, and a tool cabinet ( I haven't made that one yet) but all are nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, pkinneb said: Chet honestly you could make this project from just the magazine article Since you started this have been thinking about using the basic design for a dinning room table but obviously there would need to be some changes, like no bottom self. I am thinking that the plans may help in thinking through the changes. $16 is a pretty inexpensive resource. I have seen plans from other sources that offered more confusion then help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Chestnut said: Man the corbels are enormous. I like the design how they go through the shelf mortise. This whole design looks like it could be made to flat pack. Put a sliding dovetail on the corbels and it would lock the shelf in place the dovetails on the top stretchers would hold the base together well with the bottom shelf and then attach the top. Can't wait to see if fumed. LOL once the ends are planed to fit through the shelf mortises and the top is on they won't look so big its just that they are sitting up in this pic. Re: packing flat actually everything is glued shelf to the sides, top supports to the sides, and corbel tongues to the dado's, so the only thing removable will be the top. Looking forward to fuming as well that means this one is almost a wrap. I have a couple small projects to knock out before I start my next build which is a jewelry box for my wife's birthday in late April 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 First thing tonight was to cut the bottom of the tongue off so the corbel can slide into the mortise, right is complete left needs to be trimmed I did this on the table saw After sanding everything to 220 it was time to glue up the base, still square that's a good sign Now I fit the corbels. First laid out the angle at the bottom then I cut them at the bandsaw Next I planed the sides so they fit into the mortise and then started to refine the angle to get a good fit using a plane, rasp, and finishing with 180 grit sandpaper Then I glued them in I just want to mention another tool I found helpful on this build and that is this glue bottle from Lee Valley the small tip gives you great control to get the glue where you want it. Tomorrow I will prepare the top for finish and then put together a makeshift tent and get this thing fumed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 First thing up today was to clean up the edges of the table top. I think this is the first time I have used the sliding deadman on my bench but it really worked out well. next I moved on to sanding the top through 220 grit Then I eased the top and bottom edges and finally I marked the top attachment holes with an awl Next up I made a temp tent to fume with. I just use scraps, plastic, tape and a glue gun. Since its temporary it only needs to stay together for a few hours. this plastic was way overkill but all I had so I used it. The tape is just left over house wrap tape again not needed but what I had on hand. you really just need a sealed cover how ever you get there should be fine. Next I got out a dish and the ammonia, I use janitorial ammonia from Ace Hardware, Mike Pekovich at FWW recommended it in an article I read. It's about $3 a bottle and since you poor it back in the bottle when your done should be all I ever need. Its not as toxic as the industrial stuff but still provides the look I am going for. BTW I don't use a mask or gloves for this since I have an exhaust fan running and I never touch the ammonia I do use gloves to move the project under the tent so that i don'y get oils from my skin on the would not sure it matters but... I just use about a 1/2" in the bottom of a dish Then everybody goes in the tent and I seal up the bottom of the plastic, I just lay wood on it. I do this in my spray room with the exhaust fan running you do want ventilation but once its under the tent I shut it off and you can't smell it until you open the tent. The worst is when your done the inside of the tent will off gas for a while but the exhaust fan handles it fine. ...and then you wait. I check samples every two hours and I expect this to take about 4-6 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 So exciting!! The anticipation is killing me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 It's been longer than 4-6 hours, Paul ! I keep checking back to see if you posted pics of the freshly fumed table . Get a move on !!Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chestnut Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 I am envious of the spray booth. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Alan G said: So exciting!! The anticipation is killing me! 3 hours ago, shaneymack said: It's been longer than 4-6 hours, Paul ! I keep checking back to see if you posted pics of the freshly fumed table . Get a move on !! Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Sorry guys I should have been more clear it will probably be tomorrow before I post those pics because I want to show the three pics in series so the changes can be seen clearly from just wood, to fumed wood, to fumed and garnet shellac wood 3 hours ago, Chestnut said: I am envious of the spray booth. Probably an over statement on my part to call it a spray booth as it doesn't have an explosion proof fan but it's a 9 x 12 space with a high CFM exhaust fan and filtered return to allow air to come in from the shop with out the dust. I spray small oil based products, all water based spraying, and all wipe on products, large oil based products still get sprayed outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 So I needed to mix up a 1 1/2 lb cut of garnet shellac this morning, I use Liberon flakes. First I measure out the flakes Then I use a (dedicated) coffee bean grinder to grind the flakes up, this helps to dissolve them quicker Then mix with denatured alcohol I always date the jar and put the cut on it as well. I usually try to use them it within 90-120 days. I store the flakes inside two plastic ziplock bags to keep them fresh. if you look at the bottom (left side) you can see the sludge until that's dissolved it shouldn't be used, you need to mix the jar a few times throughout the process. As always the denatured alcohol should be treated like a finish no balled up rags etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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