Popular Post pkinneb Posted May 30, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 Trap league was canceled due to weather so I got a couple hours in the shop... Glued up the case... Then I fit the drawer runners/drawers to the case finally I trimmed the drawer fronts for glue up I'll glue them to the drawers tomorrow then I need to cut the pulls out. Then I need to make the curved side doors and this one will be ready for finish. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted May 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Today I glued the false fronts onto the drawers unfortunately I forgot to drill the holes in them before I did that (I clamped the board on the side to ensure my reveals were consistent, you can see I used a shim between the drawers for the same reason.) Since I had them all glued before realizing this mistake I ended up drilling them after they were glued...it worked fine but would have been simpler had I done it prior. Then I compounded the error when some how the holes ended up 1/16" off center...I measured at least three times and i'm still not sure what happened but because of it rather than flip end for end when cutting the pull slot I used two stops on my sled to make sure the slot was centered on the holes not the drawers. At least I got that right Next I cut some pull stock with my handsaw Then I sanded the faces and glue the pulls to the drawers Despite my early mistakes they ended up fine Apparently this pic was before they were glued in since I sanded those marks off before glue. Next up the curved doors but that will have to wait until the weekend tomorrow evening I am taking a friend out to dinner who is retiring after 43 years. Thanks fro following along this one is almost done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 We always agonize over slight errors like that but usually no one will ever notice. Centering the pull on the hole was the important thing. We all make mistakes, mastery is in the recovery and hiding them ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 From the fourth pic, I was about to say my purple martins would be envious. By the last pic I’m thinking this is beautiful. Looking fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 I can't tell that they are off center. Being all in line and similar is much more important. This is marching right along and is looking great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted May 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 11 hours ago, wdwerker said: We always agonize over slight errors like that but usually no one will ever notice. Centering the pull on the hole was the important thing. We all make mistakes, mastery is in the recovery and hiding them ! True enough! Thanks 11 hours ago, K Cooper said: From the fourth pic, I was about to say my purple martins would be envious. By the last pic I’m thinking this is beautiful. Looking fantastic. LOL yeah no birds in the house...Thanks Coop 2 hours ago, Chestnut said: I can't tell that they are off center. Being all in line and similar is much more important. This is marching right along and is looking great. Thanks Drew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 It keeps looking good Paul. Even if they had a tape measure in hand, 99.9% wouldn't notice an off center of that minute amount. I am curious, does your wife have the jewelry to fill this already, or is this going to cost you more then materials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chet said: It keeps looking good Paul. Even if they had a tape measure in hand, 99.9% wouldn't notice an off center of that minute amount. I am curious, does your wife have the jewelry to fill this already, or is this going to cost you more then materials. He's going to fill it with trim routers and LN hand planes ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted May 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Chet said: It keeps looking good Paul. Even if they had a tape measure in hand, 99.9% wouldn't notice an off center of that minute amount. I am curious, does your wife have the jewelry to fill this already, or is this going to cost you more then materials. Thanks Chet! I agree and usually I don't get too worried about it but I still cant figure out what I did wrong. I measured in from all four sides with a combo square they should have been perfect but they weren't. Oh well short of a measuring device no one, not on this forum, will ever know. She does have a fair amount but most of its what I would call costume jewelry. The good stuff is in the safe and she rarely wears it for fear she'll loose it even though I have it insured 4 hours ago, Chestnut said: He's going to fill it with trim routers and LN hand planes ..... I have mentioned more than once that i could use the stuff in the safe for a new tool or two but just get that look that says "we've had 32 good years do you really want to ruin it" LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted June 16, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 Got back out to the shop today, first up was to clean up the edges of the veneer Then I worked to determine what made the best looking panels Once I decided on the best layout, which took waaay too long, I cut them to size with a veneer saw Then rinse and repeat. The inside panels are at the top not as nice as the outer ones but they are on the inside so I figured they were ok. After marking them for layout so I didn't make a mistake during glue up I mixed up some cold mold glue. Hope it works I have never used this stuff before but followed the directions closely so we shall see. Then I did a dry run on the first door Everything looked good so I glued it up...and 6 hours from now we'll know if it worked While waiting for that to dry I touched up the feet curves on the spindle sander Then glued them on Next up see if the door worked, if it did glue up the other one...if not order some more bendable plywood from Lee Valley 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Looking awesome man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 18 hours ago, K Cooper said: Looking awesome man! Thanks Coop!! First up today was to remove the door from the form... Not an epic fail but there was one issue...in the next two photos you can see the bulge that formed where there was no support on the form I've decided not to scrap the door but I will try to fix the form so I don't have that issue on the second door. here is the door after clean up Then I cleaned up the front edge with a block plane Hey it came out square so that's good...I trimmed to length on the table saw Then I needed to trim an 1/8" off the width and choose the bandsaw as the safest way to accomplish that That should work I will trim the back after I have the hinge bar and other door at the same stage in the process Next up I added a couple of support blocks to the form to see if I could keep the bulge from forming. and now we wait to see if it worked Next up trim the second door to fit and start on the hinge bar and the magnet bar for the doors. Happy fathers day to all the fathers out there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Great recovery. That would have been such a waste had you not been able too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I really like those curved doors. Also that wenge is stunning. I'm excited to see this one finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Can you take an educated guess as to whether or not you would have avoided the bulge with a Veneer press bag setup. I do like the out come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I am just loving the ride a long on this. Your approach and methods, use of jigs and techniques, this has been a real treasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Chet said: Can you take an educated guess as to whether or not you would have avoided the bulge with a Veneer press bag setup. I do like the out come. I don't think so I think it had more to do with the form and possibly going to heavy on the glue. In the pic below you can see the void in the form before I attempted to fix what I think was the problem I added the two supports prior to the second glue up and I'm happy to report the second door came out with no bulge. I also think my lack of experience using veneer glue caused me to go to heavy on the glue, it just seemed so thin. I believed this and the void allowed the glue to pool up and harden in the unsupported area. Thoughts? I'll ask you and others in the group when using veneer glue do you apply glue to both faces? Do you need more than to make sure both faces are wet? I did use an ink roller to get even coats. 3 hours ago, gee-dub said: I am just loving the ride a long on this. Your approach and methods, use of jigs and techniques, this has been a real treasure. Thanks gee-dub!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 hours ago, pkinneb said: I'll ask you and others in the group when using veneer glue do you apply glue to both faces? I have zero experience with veneer work. I have watched videos on it but it was from the standpoint of a ride along not really going of the full education process. I do know that Marc has a pretty detailed video on his free site about the whole veneer procedure, that was one of the ones I watched. I am just guessing, but my thinking would be that your clamping technique might require a touch more glue then it would with a bag because the pressure is complete and even with the bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Chet said: I have zero experience with veneer work. I have watched videos on it but it was from the standpoint of a ride along not really going of the full education process. I do know that Marc has a pretty detailed video on his free site about the whole veneer procedure, that was one of the ones I watched. I am just guessing, but my thinking would be that your clamping technique might require a touch more glue then it would with a bag because the pressure is complete and even with the bag. I'll have to check that video out. We will find out soon as I will be using the bag for the outer veneer. Although since its just one thin layer with no spring back issues possible I will probably just use Titebond III because there would be no mixing. Here is the second door with no bulge And here they are cleaned up and initial fit to the box Next up was to trim and fit the hinge bars Shoot the ends square That should work Next I milled up some 1/4" stock for the magnet bars and glued them in Next up I will glue veneer to the magnet bar side and modify the form in preparation for veneering the outer faces of the doors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 SWEEEEET! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 That looks great. Im good a building a box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted June 19, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 The meticulous work just keeps coming. Super work Paul. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted June 24, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 First up today was to trim the doors to the correct depth, I did this on the table saw with a sled and stop block. Then I cleaned up the cut with a block plane. Another new way to clamp to the bench Then I cleaned up the catch face Next I used some centers to transfer the location of the magnets for the catches. I don't show it but I used shims to center the door on the opening prior to marking them. Then I used a forstner bit to drill the openings. These will actually be mounted under the 1/16" curly maple veneer that will be applied to the outer edges of the door. ...and glued them in with some medium super glue After they dried I did a quick clean up with some sandpaper and then glued the 1" wide by 1/16" curly maple veneer in place with clamps and a caul. Then I planed the veneer even with the solid wood Next up I had to modify the clamping form so I could use it with the vacuum press for the outer skin. I couple runs through the TS to make the grove and we were ready to add the door face veneer. After applying TB III to both faces I taped the veneer to the door and slid it all into the press...where it will stay overnight. Then rinse and repeat. I will add the door face veneer and move this door to the press tomorrow. Next up attach the hinge bar and mortise for the hinges...the end is getting near finally and hey only missed her birthday by three months 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Really looking good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's so enjoyable following your build. Careful progress through some fussy details with great results. Thanks again for bringing us along for the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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