QUINT MAJOR Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 How long can I work with getting multiple layers of glued pieces together before clamping? Meaning, how long can I move and work with the glued pieces before I clamp them to dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I don't know off the top of my head, but the working time will be on the packaging or check their website. They will list two numbers. One is open time, this is how long the glue you've spread on one wood surface can be open to the air/oxygen. The second value is working time. This is how long you have to re-position two pieces of wood with a glue layer between them. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 APPLICATION TEMPERATURE: Above 47°F OPEN ASSEMBLY TIME: 8-10 minutes (70°F./50%RH) TOTAL ASSEMBLY TIME: 20-25 minutes (70°F./50%RH) MINIMUM REQUIRED SPREAD : Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon REQUIRED CLAMPING PRESSURE: Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods) From titebond website. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Reading the label is helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 So many variables to answer your question.. Temperature, humidity, etc.. If I find myself really needing a lot of open time, I usually go to epoxy. Something else that helps is improved ways to spread the glue like rollers and brushes. Clamping strategy can also improve your speed to stay ahead of the glue. Dry fits help us understand where we need clamps to close up those pesky little gaps.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUINT MAJOR Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, Mark J said: I don't know off the top of my head, but the working time will be on the packaging or check their website. They will list two numbers. One is open time, this is how long the glue you've spread on one wood surface can be open to the air/oxygen. The second value is working time. This is how long you have to re-position two pieces of wood with a glue layer between them. Hope that helps. Thanks 35 minutes ago, curlyoak said: APPLICATION TEMPERATURE: Above 47°F OPEN ASSEMBLY TIME: 8-10 minutes (70°F./50%RH) TOTAL ASSEMBLY TIME: 20-25 minutes (70°F./50%RH) MINIMUM REQUIRED SPREAD : Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon REQUIRED CLAMPING PRESSURE: Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods) From titebond website. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUINT MAJOR Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, RichardA said: Reading the label is helpful. Don’t have it in front of me at the moment and was trying to do some mental prep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 If I'm in doubt about open time I go with Kev's recommendation of epoxy. I had a student this semester who made a box jointed tool cabinet - lots of glue surfaces. I recommended that he use epoxy. He went with T3 on the first two joints and had all kinds of trouble getting them together and squared in time. He switched to epoxy and you could see the relief on his face. The noted on open times on the labels are best case scenarios. If you're in a dry climate, high altitude in mid-summer cut the times in half. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby W Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Titebond III has been my go-to glue since it came out. I have had it with open joints for at least 10 minutes, even in warmer weather. Once you put it together, you have only a few minutes until it grabs. Once it does, you need a hammer to take it apart. I get really strong joints using it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The ideal if you need TB#3 is to keep it WET as long as posdible. Now this might mean a little glue may run down but atleast you know it's not dried on you enough to breal k good contact... I won't use TB#3 for anything unless it's exterior... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbutcher Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Titebond 3 is my preferred glue. Little bit longer open time than the first two. Does tend to be a bit runnier though. Havent decided if thats a good thing or a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy. I agree and would add if I am working with a darker wood I typically use TB III as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Chestnut said: Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy. II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, Coop said: II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? Titebond III should be fine for that Ken. It will get wet but then it will dry off, it isn't like you are going to submerge it in water for an extended period. Epoxy would make it more durable I think but I think TB III is fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Coop said: II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? I've used III for some out door bird feeders and it holds up well. 2 did not however. The glue weakened and separated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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