mat60 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, TIODS said: This is simply not true. There are a lot of people here that build amazing projects who don't have much money or the latest and greatest green, red, and yellow tools in their shop! I never said someone cant build amazing stuff without the best tools. I said why would aneyone want to post aneything if there not experts. Work that isnt all that amazing or at least up to the forums standards is not all that welcome here. They dont come back a lot of times after they here how much red oak stinks and you here about farm house tables exc, exc. You no what Im talking about. Its like no one cairs about trying to get new members. What do we have 10-15 members that are active and in the click here. I have been here long enuff to see whats up. Im fine because I dont need to post my stuff and as said I ask very little. Of corce this my opinion so its fine. I feel at least most of I said is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..Kev Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 And I would disagree. Fact is that most everyone here tries to help those new to the hobby learn their way. By posting their projects and being open to constructive criticism, they can learn new things to try on the next item they build. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jfitz Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 shrug - add me to the disagree camp on this one. Sure, I'm floored with the "expert" posts pics and projects here....but I also really enjoy the posts pics and projects from people, like me, who are still finding their way on this journey. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tpt life Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I have not posted anything "fine" and never felt unwelcome for that. Yes, four or five guys hate red oak. Who cares? Don't use us as a reason to not post stuff. That's making excuses. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I'm just proud to hear that someone thinks anything I've ever posted is "Fine"!!! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Jim DaddyO said: Well, this thread is not garnering any interest. Yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I use red oak quite a bit. Not because I like it, because that's what my wife want's in the house. I work in any wood. There are some posts I just don't read or videos that I don't watch, because it doesn't capture my eye. And I find that when someone posts something and I read or watch it, and I get nothing from it, I tend not to read or watch the videos they contribute later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Yeah the red oak thing is just a pissing contest. I don't tell others they gotta use it, so they don't get to tell me I can't. However, that doesn't mean i use it outdoors, or when lots of stability is required, and I don't try to stain it to look like walnut. It has limitations, but using it doesn't make anyone less of a craftsman. A good craftsman simply knows when he should or shouldn't. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, JosephThomas said: Yeah the red oak thing is just a pissing contest. I don't tell others they gotta use it, so they don't get to tell me I can't. However, that doesn't mean i use it outdoors, or when lots of stability is required, and I don't try to stain it to look like walnut. It has limitations, but using it doesn't make anyone less of a craftsman. A good craftsman simply knows when he should or shouldn't. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Yeah, some red oak should never be seen! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DaddyO Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, RichardA said: Yeah, some red oak should never be seen! That is a handsome dresser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jim DaddyO said: That is a handsome dresser. Yeah, ask the old fart how long it took him to build it. It's just darn near an antique! Just kidding Rick! You did a Helluva job, especially considering your back problems! Mat, when I was about 3-4 months into the forum, I said something similiar. Don't remember exactly, but along the same line. Kev replied with a slap in the face by telling me to shut the heck up, that some of my contributions were actually informative. I have no idea which ONE he was talking about, but I'm glad he chimed in and am glad I stayed. So here's my slap in the face to you. Continue to contribute. Everyone here would be missed if they left! Jim, your vids are really pretty cool and informative, but as others have mentioned, trim them down a tad. And that's all I've got to say about that! Well, probably not but for now at least. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 5 hours ago, mat60 said: I never said someone cant build amazing stuff without the best tools. I said why would aneyone want to post aneything if there not experts. Work that isnt all that amazing or at least up to the forums standards is not all that welcome here. They dont come back a lot of times after they here how much red oak stinks and you here about farm house tables exc, exc. You no what Im talking about. Its like no one cairs about trying to get new members. What do we have 10-15 members that are active and in the click here. I have been here long enuff to see whats up. Im fine because I dont need to post my stuff and as said I ask very little. Of corce this my opinion so its fine. I feel at least most of I said is true. Mat, there are no forum standards when it comes to the work produced by the people here. The only standard required, is that you post something you're proud of, or need an answer to. If someone makes a foot stool from big box wood and nails, the first question I'm gonna ask, is , did you countersink the nails? Clique?... There's no clique here. I post a lot, because I can spend every waking hour pestering the folks here, because I'm 73 years old and can work all day every day in my shop, or I can sit here and piss you and everyone else off. New members find their way here from word of mouth, Marc doesn't spend money advertising how wonderful this forum is! You've been here about a year and a half, how did you find this place???? Mat, why don't you post, hell, I'd like to see your work, you've seen mine, and from that you should be able to see that I'm no damn expert! I'm going to bed, this is a good place, take advantage of the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, RichardA said: Mat, You've been here about a year and a half, how did you find this place???? I like the forum alot. I no it may not seem it at at times but I also like everyone here also. My wife and I are home alot these days and its been her,work and this forum. Thank you for asking Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, RichardA said: The only standard required, is that you post something you're proud of, or need an answer to. I would just add that if you're posting anything, you should expect some critique/criticism. Hopefully it is constructive. Marc's guidelines for the project showcase section say as much: "By posting your project here you are consenting to an open critique of your work by other members of this forum." But, please note that what he also says about their opinions: "Remember, many critiques are steeped in opinion so don't take it personally if someone disagrees with your choices." Here's a link to the entire thing for reference: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 7 hours ago, mat60 said: Work that isnt all that amazing or at least up to the forums standards is not all that welcome here. I simply can't understand this statement. I haven't noticed this at all. From my personal experience, I have only posted a few projects, but not a single one was amazing and all are far from perfect. They were what they are, intermediate-ish projects built by a guy with relatively (very) little experience and mostly sub-par tools. I can't think of any criticisms from anyone but myself. I find this to be a very hospitable forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 5 hours ago, bleedinblue said: I simply can't understand this statement. I haven't noticed this at all. From my personal experience, I have only posted a few projects, but not a single one was amazing and all are far from perfect. They were what they are, intermediate-ish projects built by a guy with relatively (very) little experience and mostly sub-par tools. I can't think of any criticisms from anyone but myself. I find this to be a very hospitable forum. Uh, That's because cops scare us! No, your correct, we mostly find good folks here. Oh, and I noticed that you quoted Hemingway... The world was a different place in his and my time. It was worth fighting for, but now , only parts of it are worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim DaddyO Posted October 24, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well, I certainly didn't expect this kind of reaction. Lots's of nice work in this forum in general, and I have no complaint about taking advice or having my work critiqued. That is why I come here. To learn, to be inspired, to participate. Which I will continue to do. Weather a box from reclaimed material, or an art piece, or fine furniture, I am interested in it all. I am not going to give up on that. You guys all inspire me to keep going and trying new things and to improve. Besides, I like my shop time and working in there. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jim DaddyO said: Well, I certainly didn't expect this kind of reaction. Lots's of nice work in this forum in general, and I have no complaint about taking advice or having my work critiqued. That is why I come here. To learn, to be inspired, to participate. Which I will continue to do. Weather a box from reclaimed material, or an art piece, or fine furniture, I am interested in it all. I am not going to give up on that. You guys all inspire me to keep going and trying new things and to improve. Besides, I like my shop time and working in there. For me, that's kind of the essence of what this place is about! Very well said Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted October 24, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 17 hours ago, RichardA said: Yeah, some red oak should never be seen! Yeah red oak who would use such an inferior wood LOL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Now the coin has flipped and the accusers fall into their own pit. Sarcastically chasten others because your opinion is better? This does not bring the conversation level higher, it drags it back down. Walk the high road guys. Would you also consider posting your work in threads in the showplaces? After all, this is Jim's shop thread. We have hijacked it far afield. (Guilty myself, no stones thrown.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Look @mat60 I don't want to disrespect your feelings on the matter. I am sure they have some basis, but I agree with most of the other posters. I feel comfortable here. I don't have a great deal to offer in projects or experience, but I throw my two cents in when I think it's worth at least even money. And so far I don't think anyone has thrown them back at me. @Jim DaddyO I enjoy seeing your videos and other comments. For me this forum is a place to go and hang out with the Druid Gang. But, much of the time that I get to spend on here is at work when I'm taking a break. Oddly enough the people paying me expect me to be, well, working, so I don't have time to read as many posts as I would like, or write as many posts as I might think of (which might be a good thing). But C Shafffer's point is well taken, so, Jim if you do decide to continue your presentations you might want to start a brand new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Naaaa...if this thread is spoiled beyond recovery, a mod should just delete the bickering. Jim shouldn't have to make a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Jim, I have to admit that I too often check the forum at times when watching a video is "awkward". I'll be sure to catch up when I can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DaddyO Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 A subscription to my channel or blog will keep you up to date. I would normally consider that advertising, but I'm not making any money doing this...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 On 10/23/2016 at 4:07 PM, shaneymack said: Is this a joke? Yes,, For the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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