jjongsma Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 35 minutes ago, Eric. said: Call and raise. [image snipped] I'm fairly new here so maybe you don't care about my opinion, but I think that things like this make the forum a less-than-welcoming place for women woodworkers and should be discouraged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well this has never been a good place to find women anyways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Immortan D said: Well this has never been a good place to find women anyways. @jjongsma makes a good point. It's not like we're going to attract more women like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, BonPacific said: @jjongsma makes a good point. It's not like we're going to attract more women like this. Oh, didn't know we were looking, sorry. Point! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov163 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Okay, just to be fair, maybe this will help balance the books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 As a man, I find the last two posts highly offensive. 40 minutes ago, jjongsma said: I'm fairly new here so maybe you don't care about my opinion, but I think that things like this make the forum a less-than-welcoming place for women woodworkers and should be discouraged. Just curious, do you not watch football games because of the cheerleaders? Women are in the world, no way to avoid them completely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, prov163 said: Okay, just to be fair, maybe this will help balance the books. The earmuffs are definitely an improvement. Still showing a very cavalier attitude towards PPE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjongsma Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Eric. said: As a man, I find the last two posts highly offensive. Just curious, do you not watch football games because of the cheerleaders? Women are in the world, no way to avoid them completely. I understand that you're probably feeling defensive for being called out, that's fine. That's why you're making this about me and disingenuously suggesting that I want to completely avoid women. But I think you're smart enough to understand how posting images like that creates a non-welcoming atmosphere for women, despite the feigned ignorance and intentional misreading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Can I still say fart? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 One of the guys at work has the Veritas dovetail saw, It looks much better in the flesh, cuts really well to. If I were on a budget and wanted a western saw for dovetails, I would not hesitate in buying the Veritas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bleedinblue Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, jjongsma said: I'm fairly new here so maybe you don't care about my opinion, but I think that things like this make the forum a less-than-welcoming place for women woodworkers and should be discouraged. If you think there is enough locker room talk here to be an issue, you really are new. Such horrible, disgusting pictures are so rare, I'm pretty sure it's the only one I've seen. You won't find a more family friendly forum filled with men. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, jjongsma said: I'm fairly new here so maybe you don't care about my opinion, but I think that things like this make the forum a less-than-welcoming place for women woodworkers and should be discouraged. Political Correctness has already gone awry. We don't need more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric. Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, jjongsma said: I understand that you're probably feeling defensive for being called out, that's fine. That's why you're making this about me and disingenuously suggesting that I want to completely avoid women. But I think you're smart enough to understand how posting images like that creates a non-welcoming atmosphere for women, despite the feigned ignorance and intentional misreading. I'm not being defensive. I just think it's a little ridiculous that someone finds that picture offensive. It's not like she's nude. I completely understand that in our overly-sensitive brave new world you have to hide from what's in front of you and display phony outrage over the most minor cultural faux pas... ...but c'mon dude...lighten up. It's a beautiful girl with a chainsaw. I didn't club a baby seal. Spend your energy confronting real problems if you fancy yourself a crusader, lest the din of nonsensical chatter drown out the truly important problems we face. So not worth it to call out every trivial infraction. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bgreenb Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Someone let me know when the candlelight vigil is scheduled #ericgatepartdeux 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, bgreenb said: #ericgatepartdeux Jeez...just the thought of it made me go back and edit. Ridiculous it's come to this, but whatever. Now I know how Bill Maher feels. LOL Tom still has the mosquito preserved in amber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Since the boobies are gone, can those man boobies also be removed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lester Burnham said: Moobs are good for no one. I always called them "mitties" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bleedinblue Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Remove the dudes or this goes full size! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 I really want a chainsaw! I will buy from the young lady, i hope training and drinks with her after are part of the deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tpt life Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Gotta train the newbs to use PM. Addressing any offense publicly will always degenerate if the complainee disagrees with the complainer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 I think this has gone swimmingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Awesome work guys. Complete and total derailment! LOL. But it seemed to start a good conversation, and I did get quite a few pointers on what I'm looking for. I did low ball the posted budget, as I've seen every other type of thread here inflate beyond the stated budgets( see also: Should I get the Rigid or Delta Planer? Answer: Get a 735 for twice the price), so the vast majority of the recommendations were on point. 2 hours ago, Eric. said: I didn't club a baby seal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted June 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 My beef with dozukis is the grip, nothing else. They do tend to be easier to use for beginners because they cut on the pull stroke...but I find the grip extremely awkward and it's difficult for me to make accurate cuts with it. The key with western saws is to hold the saw like you're holding a baby bird. The weight of the saw does the work. As soon as you try to apply pressure, things go wrong. I think the problem with japanese saws is that we 'mericuns use them with western-style work holding devices. They probably make much more sense if you are crouched near the floor, like they are designed for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/14/2017 at 7:10 PM, Marmotjr said: I did low ball the posted budget, as I've seen every other type of thread here inflate beyond the stated budgets( see also: Should I get the Rigid or Delta Planer? Answer: Get a 735 for twice the price), so the vast majority of the recommendations were on point. Ok good. I almost replied "Hey dummy, sub $50 won't even buy a nice dinner with my wife." Seriously, I thought you a fool. Just so you know, power tools and hand tools share completely different price scales. If you had left the sub $50 off, you Might have gotten a Bad Axe recommendation that comes in at the three wife dinners range. I did not want to appear caustic, but now I know you can handle tongue in cheek. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I did get a few PM's about Bad Axe anyways. And I am seriously impressed. And yes, I did spec out a saw , but not pulling that trigger for a while. I have pretty much average sized hands (Size Large normally in good rubber gloves, size 9? I think (been a while since I wore surgical gloves)), and yet I have a 8 1/8 head (hat size! Out of the gutter yous!) So what I am gleaning from this, I should get either a dedicated dovetail saw, or a hybrid saw that is dovetail/crosscut. I will leave tenon cutting to the dado stack. A western grip is probably what I will go with, but I'm not opposed to a Japanese style, it's just that, as mentioned, the market seems flooded in a variety of qualities and price ranges, and I'm more likely to get a lemon that leaves me frustrated. I've listened to enough people (in particular Shannon @RenaissanceWW) talk about how a light grip is key, so I'm already in that mindset (I hope). My experience doing IV's as a medic might come in handy here, as a light grip in a delicate situation really helps. (A being a high school musician really helps identify heart arrythmias). I will eventually pick up a japanese saw, as those who love them, really love them, so I gotta try. Another suggestion in a PM was to take a class. That had never occurred to me specifically about this, but it's a fantastic idea. Woodcraft is about 90 minutes away, but there are other classes a bit closer, Connover's shop being about 15 minutes and 1 traffic light away from here (My bandsaw is from his line of tools), but he's really expensive for this type of class. Thank you for all the suggestions and comments! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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