Popular Post Chestnut Posted January 11, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 So this week i cleaned up the web frames. I really really REALLY want a decent bench. It's nice have options line below but dang it would be nice to have a decent vise. I also installed the plywood in the frames which left a huge mess in the shop with clamps everywhere. I couldn't find my camera you can see a bit of it in the above picture behind the right side of the bench. The plywood i used is some 1/4" subfloor stuff that was marketed as being all hardwood birch plys. Don't know if i believe them but it was stable-ish in sheet form and was fairly priced. Next step was getting the bottom drawer rails figured out as well as getting an attack plan for the glue up. I figured out I could glue up the bottom frame and it'd save me a lot of headache and make the final glue up FAR easier. The following 2 pictures show the bottom frame in clamps after i applied glue to all the mortises. Last minute before glue up i decided i wanted center runners So i found some material to glue in the center to be able to attach a runner to. I decided the center runner is the best way to keep the drawers centered and running true. I thought about doing some complicated dovetail thing to stop them from tipping out but abandoned that because well that's just too complicated. I'll rig something up for the top of the drawer to ride on or something. I should note that in all the pictures the dresser is upside down. I am assembling it with the top on my assembly table that is nice and flat and makes an excellent reference. In the above picture you can see the Xs on the sub floor plywood. This will be down so it shoulnd't be seen unless you pull out a drawer and then lay on your back and look inside with a flashlight. Not sure why any one would ever do that but i can bet that because i said that it's going to happen to me sometime. This is the completed frame. Final thing to do at this point was to make sure i had enough time, I didn't, bust out the epoxy, the following day (today), and glue everything together. I am using West system 105 and 207 with no filler. A lot of the dominoes are very snug so i figured i didn't need any filler and it's kinda messy. Pot life for 207 is around 20-25 min. I wanted to be able to get as much of this as possible. I used a shallow bowl to mix the epoxy in and used that as my container. The shallow bowl allows the epoxy to thin out and not generate as much heat. As a result it cures more slowly giving you more time. I started at 7pm. Right around 7:40 i ran out of epoxy and had to mix a 2nd batch. I was about 2/3rds done only. I only brought 1 shallow bowl and you should never mix curing compounds in a container that has nearly cured product. The reaction accelerates and you end up starting with your new batch at the same point the previous batch was at and some times the cure accelerates. So i mixed a second batch in my regular 2oz red solo cup. I was able to get epoxy on all the dominoes and everything positioned pretty easily. Clamps went out. My little extenders worked awesome. I got all 62 dominoes and 15 clmaps placed by 8:30. Stress over..... Drawer nightmare begin. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Looks great! Smart man putting dust covers between the layers of drawers will save you lots of frustration. My wife's dresser drawers are always getting hung up on stuff falling through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Really coming along nicely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Looking good. Can I see a close up of your clamp splices?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Ronn W said: Looking good. Can I see a close up of your clamp splices?? I'll send them to your email as well so you can zoom in on them and be able to read the rulers. The groove is a hair over 3/8" by 1 1/8". Hole is 5/16" and i just used a 1/4" bolt. Don't need to tighten it much just enough that the nut doesn't fall off. It acts as a pin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 10:43 PM, Chestnut said: Nice trick i just figured out. I like the white pencil for walnut but keeping it at a fine points has me going through these pencils rather quickly. I learned that if i mark everything out in pencil i can highlight the line with the white pencil and it allows me to see things perfectly. Graphite after all is a good lubricant so i assume it's stopping the white from sticking to the surface. I discovered this last weekend while marking lines on walnut for Domino locations. The white pencil actually does act as a highlighter. Looking great Drew! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 So I decided to not do hand cut DTs because i did probably 5 trials an the experience was miserable... Maybe some day in the future but not today. Started out with the cheap cherry i bought a few months ago. I didn't notice all the dark stuff on it when i picked it up because it was raining and dark out. The closer i looked at the wood the more it looked like it may have been dried improperly. Not sure if it was in a fire of some sort but it made me feel a bit sorry for the fellow selling it. I hope he didn't loose much if it was in a shop fire or something. The wood was stable though no serious internal stress and it was very very well mannered. Maybe this is a good way to dry wood. Start it on fire and then douse it with a house.... yeah not going to try that any time soon. So i decided to try the skip pin method with my PC dovetail jig. It turned out to be really easy and i like the look a lot better than the standard machine DT look. I'll be using this again. Took me maybe 5 evenings to get all the material milled, cut to length, and dovetails machined out. Because the width that works best with the jig is X-1/4" the top drawers being 5" need to be trimmed after the fact. So i haven't test fit them yet. Drawer bottoms are my usual 1/2" ply glued in a rabbet cut around the entire bottom. I did this for the last nicer drawers i made and really like the result. They are sturdy and maximize the internal space. For these i set up the dado stack. With the dado stack it's a pain to do stopped rabbets so i just blew through the sides and the back beings that they won't really ever be seen unless you pull the drawer out and look for it. There are just a couple square gaps missing on the back 2 corners. With the way the dovetials laid out on the front there is a hole facing forward but that will get covered up with the face skin. That left 2 corners that needed to be squared. Us a marking gauge to lay out lines. Few wacks with a pig sticker. Clean up with my nice 1" wide chisel An with about 5 min of work a perfectly square corner. Some glue and some clamps and drawer's done. I have completed all the drawers and will next be starting on the final parts which is adjusting the drawers installing a center divider and then cutting the face veneer and gluing on. I'm excited and nervous for the face veneer. I think it's going to look awesome but i'm nervous i'm going to mess it up. I only have 1 shot at this.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I only have 1 shot at this.... Great work as usual Drew, just remember what Yoda says "there is no try, only do or do not" i'm sure you will do fine, oh yeah, nice work on the drawers, glad you took us along for the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Really nice work Drew!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I like those skipped pins, nice choice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chet Posted January 25, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Chestnut said: So I decided to not do hand cut DTs because i did probably 5 trials an the experience was miserable. I had a woodworker who I respect greatly for his woodworking knowledge once told me that hand cut dovetails or dovetails in general are only precious to the woodworker, no one else even notices. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Chet said: I had a woodworker who I respect greatly for his woodworking knowledge once told me that hand cut dovetails or dovetails in general are only precious to the woodworker, no one else even notices. Yeah but were the only ones who matter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Don't buy into the 1 shot addach. If you screw the first set up, I'm sure you will come up with something awesome. Some of my best accomplishments have come from screw ups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Yeah, veneer is so thin, if you screw up, slap another layer on. Great job on the drawers Nut! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Brendon_t said: Don't buy into the 1 shot addach. If you screw the first set up, I'm sure you will come up with something awesome. Some of my best accomplishments have come from screw ups. 12 hours ago, K Cooper said: Yeah, veneer is so thin, if you screw up, slap another layer on. Great job on the drawers Nut! Oh I'll get it done but i don't know that i have enough material to mess up and be able to use all matched pieces of the same stock i'd have to go a different route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I'm sure you'll do great. When I built the Smoking Lamp cabinet, I went through 4 iterations of the doors/drawers together specifically because I ran out of the very curly stock. Tried a bunch of things and ended with perfectly straight Qs walnut out of necessity. It also looks so much better than the original idea. Point being, you got this and IF you screw it up, you'll recover nicely. I've got no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just thought I'd share cause you guys like thus stuff. Hope it's not too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Very nice. You gunna start by halving it, then again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 It’s not that often that you see a crotch with that figure. At least I don’t anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdie Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Nut's messing with his crotch again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Beautiful. More than thick enough to book match... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 I had enough time to slice 6 1/8" veneees before i got hit by a nasty bug like a freight train. Is the best way to sand shop veneer to attach it to a substrate for drum sanding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Do you attach it to the substrate with dbl back tape? I wouldn’t think so but I’ve never done that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Why not glue it to the substrate that will be the project? Then drum sand it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 hours ago, curlyoak said: Why not glue it to the substrate that will be the project? Then drum sand it? I kicked that around but there are bandsaw marks on both sides and i figured they should be cleaned off before i glue it down. Also i assembled the drawers because i wasn't sure if the dovetails would extend proud of the surface and create issues. Think i'm just going to joine a piece of wood and double stick tape it to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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