Woodworking_Hobby Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Will a little moisture on the outside of kiln dried lumber cause any problems? will it just affect the outer surface? Will it jusr dry back and accumulate to the shop conditions? I was going to go pick up my next order of rough lumber from the yard, but there is a chance of light drizzle the next few days. It would only be in the back of the truck for an hour or so before it was back inside and was not sure if that small amount of moisture will cause future issues or will just take a touch longer to reach equilibrium in the shop. I could try and wrap a tarp around the end but not sure that was worth the effort and if it would do anything in the long run. 1 Quote
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted February 6 Popular Post Report Posted February 6 A little rain on the surface should not cause much effect. It will evaporate long before the lumber equalizes to the ambient humidity in your shop, in most cases. 5 1 Quote
Popular Post Mark J Posted February 6 Popular Post Report Posted February 6 A little water on the surface of your rough boards should have no lasting effects. It would take a very long exposure for water molecules to diffuse into the wood and change the moisture content. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that water can't get back into the wood any faster than it can come out of the wood when drying. If the boards were sanded smooth, the water will raise the grain, but that is not an issue, here (even if the boards are S2S). Just make sure when you stack the lumbar in your shop, that air can circulate to dry them out. 3 1 Quote
Chestnut Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Moisture does not move through KD wood quickly at all. I have had many loads of rough lumber get rained on on the way home and after drying have resulted in zero adverse impacts. Just bring it under cover and make sure it is dried before use. I also advocate for acclimating lumber for a week or 2 before use. That should fix any rain issues. Properly dried wood is incredibly durable. 1 1 Quote
wtnhighlander Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Chestnut said: Just bring it under cover and make sure it is dried before use. Especially if you use a Sawstop!! 2 Quote
pkinneb Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 On 2/6/2025 at 1:15 PM, wtnhighlander said: Especially if you use a Sawstop!! Or bypass the safety feature 2 Quote
Popular Post Chestnut Posted February 7 Popular Post Report Posted February 7 4 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: Especially if you use a Sawstop!! I swear if i had a SS i'd probably run it in bypass more than not. On a side note it'd be interesting to see if there is a statistic differentiating table saw injuries of rip vs crosscut. I'm sure rip is far higher but it'd still be intersting. 4 Quote
Popular Post pkinneb Posted February 7 Popular Post Report Posted February 7 On 2/6/2025 at 6:01 PM, Chestnut said: I swear if i had a SS i'd probably run it in bypass more than not. On a side note it'd be interesting to see if there is a statistic differentiating table saw injuries of rip vs crosscut. I'm sure rip is far higher but it'd still be intersting. I run mine in bypass occasionally, probably 2% of the time. I haven't had an incident on the SS but on the two with my PM66 both were rip cuts and neither were injury's but did require a wardrobe changes Ultimately I swear by the SS but it has little to do with the safety feature they are just damn good saws in my opinion. 3 Quote
fcschoenthal Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 10:16 AM, pkinneb said: Ultimately I swear by the SS but it has little to do with the safety feature they are just damn good saws in my opinion. +1. I looked at a lot of saws before I bought the SawStop. Quote
Coop Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. Quote
B1rdhunter Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 9:52 PM, Coop said: I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. Not even a little bit, I am more cautious and alert with every ageing day. 1 Quote
Popular Post fcschoenthal Posted February 8 Popular Post Report Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 9:52 PM, Coop said: I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. I've only had mine a couple of years, but I've become more cautious. I watch for anything that will cause me to buy a new brake cartridge, blade and pair of pants. Those blades don't go quietly into the night when they're tripped. 3 2 Quote
Popular Post Woodworking_Hobby Posted February 8 Author Popular Post Report Posted February 8 Is it just me or is it always a letdown when the forklift shows up with your lumber I am always like that’s a lot of board feet I am getting; I add in just a little extra for the project; add in some build the collection up….. then they show up with what feels like two boards. Then my mind goes to how am I going to lay out all of my parts!! 3 3 Quote
Beechwood Chip Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 10:52 PM, Coop said: I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. The blades and brake cartridges are expensive. and besides, kick back is more likely than accidentally touching the blade, and the SS is like any other saw when it comes to kick back. I was actually less careful with my previous saw, and the accident is why I bought a SawStop. 1 Quote
roughsawn Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/7/2025 at 9:52 PM, Coop said: I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. Not me Coop. I'm running scared every time I turn on a piece of equipment. I'm always telling myself to go slow, and don't take anything for granted. And, don't get in a hurry. I've got nothing but time. A palm router did this to me, and I've been overly cautious with ALL the equipment in the shop, ever since (4 years ago). 5 Quote
Coop Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 I honestly think my palm router is the most dangerous tool that I own due to its size and the fact that mine (DeWalt) does not have the clear guard on one side. I’m overly cautious as to where my fingers are when using it. I have all but quit using it. 2 Quote
gee-dub Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 Just chiming in as a Saw Stop owner. I think I am just as cautious as ever. It would be as dangerous to trust your woodworking machine with your safety as to assume those folks going 80 on the freeway a few feet from you are going to behave. 1 Quote
JohnG Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/7/2025 at 10:52 PM, Coop said: I often wonder if owners of SS get too complacent at times? I know my Jet is not going to shut down when a hot dog or digit comes in contact with the blade. I have never understood this thinking. Do you drive recklessly because your car has airbags? While the logical side of me knows that the blade should retract before serious damage is done, I sure as heck am still terrified of getting too close to that spinning blade. I have never performed a cut on the SS that I would not have performed on a non-SS. I would bet that anyone that makes high risk cuts on the SS that lead to activation would also be making the same high risk cuts on a non-SS. 2 Quote
h3nry Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 The way I see it ... Why is the advertising done using hot dogs? If you could afford to be complacent, they'd use fingers. Quote
BillyJack Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/6/2025 at 6:01 PM, Chestnut said: I swear if i had a SS i'd probably run it in bypass more than not. On a side note it'd be interesting to see if there is a statistic differentiating table saw injuries of rip vs crosscut. I'm sure rip is far higher but it'd still be intersting. Then it would be useless to have.. On 2/9/2025 at 9:38 AM, h3nry said: The way I see it ... Why is the advertising done using hot dogs? If you could afford to be complacent, they'd use fingers. What??? Quote
h3nry Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/9/2025 at 9:36 AM, BillyJack said: What??? What I meant was ... the hot dog demonstations show that the Sawstop technology is good ... but not good enough for for them to do the test with a finger. If the people selling it to you won't put their fingers anywhere near it, then I sure as heck won't. Quote
Chestnut Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, h3nry said: What I meant was ... the hot dog demonstations show that the Sawstop technology is good ... but not good enough for for them to do the test with a finger. If the people selling it to you won't put their fingers anywhere near it, then I sure as heck won't. The inventor did use his finger in the original promotion. It's really the only thing i respect him for. That takes some mental fortitude to push your finger intentionally towards a saw blade. Does wet glue lead to trips just like metal objects and wet lumber? I just cut a board with wet glue earlier and was thinking about this post. To be clear i was thinking about this post after saefly completing my cut. Quote
Chestnut Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 3 hours ago, BillyJack said: Then it would be useless to have.. Not if there are other people using my saw that aren't me. By the time my kids are using my saw i hope the patents expire and there are retrofir options for other cabinet saws. Quote
BillyJack Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/9/2025 at 11:40 AM, h3nry said: What I meant was ... the hot dog demonstations show that the Sawstop technology is good ... but not good enough for for them to do the test with a finger. If the people selling it to you won't put their fingers anywhere near it, then I sure as heck won't. You know that’s a 25 year old argument…Not worth its discussion.. People who don’t have one or operated one just make wild comments.. Quote
h3nry Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/10/2025 at 12:46 PM, BillyJack said: You know that’s a 25 year old argument…Not worth its discussion.. People who don’t have one or operated one just make wild comments.. I don't understand ... are you saying that you ARE prepared to make more dangerous cuts with a Sawstop than another table saw? I have used a Sawstop and I was happy to know that if I screwed up the consequences should be much less serious ... but I made the cuts with all the same caution as if it wasn't a sawestop. Quote
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