Coop Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Todd, fantastic job on that project! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Say what you will, but if I owned a lumber yard and had that much interest in reclaimed lumber, it would be asinine to not stock it, especially if I had the room. I watched a couple buy barn wood from my supplier at $8.50 lf for 1x6's and they were TSL. Being in the safety business, I won't sell a customer an inferior product, but we're talking decor here. I don't like the crap but I'm old and on my way out, but as a business, you're missing the boat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 1 hour ago, K Cooper said: Todd, fantastic job on that project! Thanks! It actually was a great project, they didn't quibble on the price and they kept adding to the project. The architect told me the feel they were going for and he left the rest up to me. There is a local gal that is a wood burning artist. She did all of the wood burning. Get this, her last name, no joking, is Burns. - Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Mike. said: I won't lie, reclaimed lumber is what got me more interested in woodworking and, believe it or not, Norm was the first guy I saw using it. He'd using everything from old wide pine boards to cypress logs fished from the bottom of a river. I quickly moved on to real lumber because, frankly, anything reclaimed worth using is too expensive. I'd happily build projects from reclaimed old growth redwood or doug fir if I could get it. The stigma about using reclaimed lumber is an unfortunate side effect of cheap people an hgtv making pallets popular. I think getting some nice old reclaimed wood is a lot different than using pallets...Reclaiming nice boards that would otherwise be burned or tossed in a landfill is a legitimate thing to do in some cases...look at an extreme case: if most of us found some old legit cuban mahogany being torn out of a neighbors house about to go to a landfill, I'm guessing most of us would take a day off of work to save it...pallet wood is just the other extreme, and it is ruining the idea of "reclaimed" anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, JosephThomas said: The stigma about using reclaimed lumber is an unfortunate side effect of cheap people an hgtv making pallets popular. I think getting some nice old reclaimed wood is a lot different than using pallets...Reclaiming nice boards that would otherwise be burned or tossed in a landfill is a legitimate thing to do in some cases...look at an extreme case: if most of us found some old legit cuban mahogany being torn out of a neighbors house about to go to a landfill, I'm guessing most of us would take a day off of work to save it...pallet wood is just the other extreme, and it is ruining the idea of "reclaimed" anything. I totally agree. I was given some reclaimed walnut from an old building in town. The walnut was installed in the building in the 20s and minus some nail holes is in really good shape. It was destined for the landfill. I still don't know what to do with it though. Does any one else have a problem finding places to store wood? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I totally agree. I was given some reclaimed walnut from an old building in town. The walnut was installed in the building in the 20s and minus some nail holes is in really good shape. It was destined for the landfill. I still don't know what to do with it though. Does any one else have a problem finding places to store wood? Yeah...garage is full, some in the shed out back, some next to the shed, some on the patio. None in the kitchen or bathroom yet, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov163 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I do some rustic projects for people. I figured out that I can make enough money to buy a tool I want and while building them, I can practice new joinery techniques without worrying about the results being spot on. Then when I am working on nicer projects I am fine tuning those skills. I also used recycled wood as mock ups which lets me see how to improve the real thing. I love working in cherry, oak, and walnut but I prefer making my mistakes in less expensive woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I have a friend that tunes and repairs pianos. Once in a while he will call me when and old piano is headed for the dumpster. Some of those old uprights have beautiful hard wood that would be great for small projects. Make friends with someone who repairs pianos. 3 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: I have no problem using reclaimed wood or wood products. Except for toilet paper. Reclaimed TP gets blotchy when you try to stain it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfowler Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Where I live in NC we have the International Furniture market twice a year, I light several show rooms, the reclaim and Industrial look was the look most were going for, I have been using re- purposed wood for years on my bird house and feeders, people seam to be drawn to the look, the rougher the better, When I tell them the wood is re- purposed it most times makes the sale, Lucky I have a few friends who have old barns falling down and are more than willing for me to take what I need, Some old oak, and your real lucky you may even find American Chestnut, Steampunk is also now becoming a new wave in the Furniture industry, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmetscher007 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Don't get me wrong... I am not in anyway saying that reusing wood from one project into another, isn't awesome. Hell, I have another thread going right now about how I am reusing wooden staves from a spent bourbon barrel. I'd also like to use an old 14" piece of railroad track ground flat with an angle grinder as an anvil to get my feet wet with intro to blacksmithing. This would be to save me from having to buy a $600 anvil just for a small hobby. Using old scraps of cloth, sewn together to make a quilt is also awesome to me. The physical act of using a material that is no longer suited for one application, and reusing it in a better, or even just different way, is not only okay with me, I think it's awesome! I was mostly ranting about the price gouging that is happening to support this as a decor trend. There are ads all over Craigslist with some stock photo of a pile of pallet wood and a big $100 price tag. It used to be... "It's yours if you come get it outta my way." I grew up in South Georgia, where pine cones in your yard were the bane of every boys existence, because you had to pick them up 6-7 times a year. Then one day these guys came by in a huge truck and asked if they could pick them up for us, for free... just if they can have the pinecones. SCORE! Found out that they took them up north and sold them as decorative items to people in the north who like pinecones in decorative baskets etc. Brilliant!!! But if my Dad has said... "Uhmmm... That'll be $100 for the whole yard." that would be Edited May 12, 2016 by Eric. profanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgaron Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I think it is a way of establishing authenticity for the people that like it. It's kind of like how people like to hang paintings as just the canvas instead of framing them to protect them: it shows that they are "genuine" materials (versus a print in the example). Perfectly smoothed and finished wood will look more like plywood or veneered MDF than will reclaimed wood. Similarly, a antique that has been fixed and milk painted is going to feel more genuine to the person than an Ikea piece. Once Sauder has a flatpack book case that looks like milk-painted pallet wood then they'll have to move on to something else that is hard to imitate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy Wright Posted May 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I think there is a big difference between the HGTV furniture built using boards from an old fence and butt joints and a quality piece of furniture built using reclaimed hardwood and clean jointery. I am currently working on a trestle table with the base made from heart pine timbers salvaged from a late 19th century building and a top made from 2.5" maple planks floor out of an old railroad car. It actually would have been easier to just go buy new lumber (and cheaper), but that's not the look I am going for. I recently did a wall in my bathroom remodel using reclaimed pine, and whether you like it or not, you can't dispute the natural beauty of 100 year old pine - and you cant get that look from a stack of new pine and a can of stain 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Andy Wright said: That is nice and clean. Your work is tight! You did a great job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 shower heads?! That's awesome. I agree some of that old pine is unmatched. I have some studs that i tore out of my house on a recent remodel. They are the good 2" x 4" kind, not this wimpy 1.5" x 3.5". I want to make something out of them that will stay with the house but I'm slightly stumped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy Wright Posted May 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Reading some of the opinions here reminds me a lot of the fine art world (and i consider woodworking an art). There were people who argued that Warhol's Campbell soup cans are not art because he did it with screen printing instead of painting them by hand (which is eerily similar to the arguments about using CNC in woodworking) There were also people who argued that the impressionists where not great artists because they didn't paint realistic oil paintings. As it applies to woodworking, I consider traditional furniture as the "realistic oil portraits", but there are a lot of other styles of woodworking art that are very cool ranging from reclaimed wood to mixed media pieces to things done with a CNC and everything in between Truth be told I wouldn't put 75% of the furniture I see on this forum or in magazines in my home, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the work.and creativity that went into the design and construction. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmetscher007 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 14 hours ago, wdwerker said: Around the south heart pine timbers from old industrial buildings are reclaimed. They resaw it and make flooring from it. The grades with stains, nail holes and knots is very popular and it costs less than the clear premium stuff. It's old growth long leaf pine. I have seen 40 growth rings in an inch. It all costs more than quality hardwoods. This is another thing that gets all up in my craw... "Heart Pine." I'm from Atlanta, but live in Charleston SC. I grew up in the heart of Southern Pine country. I'd say, that literally 75-80% of what is now being marketed as reclaimed "Heart Pine," is really just old dirty regular pine from the 1960-70's. Again, this goes back to the element of dishonesty that I find in this whole reclaimed fad. When I even see or hear the words Heart Pine, it kind of makes me face palm on the inside. Everyone uses that phrase, but has no idea what it means. Nail holes and scuff marks does not make a pine board into "Heart Pine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Most of the old growth long leaf pine was logged out and faster growing pines were replanted. For many years my supplier in south Ga was buying the timbers as brick and timberframed warehouses built after the Chicago Fire were being torn down. The floors were 4x6 multiple tongue and groove and were supported by massive posts and beams. They would unload rail cars stacked with the timbers and go over them with metal detectors & de-nail them meticulously. Then a big bandsaw mill would slice them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Cancelleri Posted May 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this, but according to these crafty DIYers when you take reclaimed materials and framing lumber and put mahogany stain on it that piece now becomes "Beautiful Mahogany Bench!" I'm willing to bet 99.9% of these people don't know that mahogany is a type of wood, and not a color of a stain. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmetscher007 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 19 hours ago, C Shaffer said: This is a just a gross itch fest. Pallets are not all the same. Reclaimed is not all the same. Furniture is not all built the same. May I never start a thread just to whine about what I don't like. (BTW in your defense, I agree with most of you.) You're right. This thread was a little "preaching to the choir" complain-o-thon on my part. Probably not the most productive thread I've ever started for sure. But... just to call ya out a little... you did complain in this thread that you'd never write a thread just to complain. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just now, Dolmetscher007 said: But... just to call ya out a little... you did complain in this thread that you'd never write a thread just to complain. ;-) That wasn't a complaint, it was an aspiration. It's just that this horse is SO dead, man. You're new here so you may have missed it...we've been beating it for years now. And beating it, and beating it...and beating it. It's limp. Let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mike. said: Man buns and beards won't last forever, either. Say it isn't so.. I want a top knot bun thing so everyone is confused to if I'm a samurai or a metro sexual overweight arteest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmetscher007 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Eric. said: That wasn't a complaint, it was an aspiration. It's just that this horse is SO dead, man. You're new here so you may have missed it...we've been beating it for years now. And beating it, and beating it...and beating it. It's limp. Let it go. I am a very light hearted guy, and make more fun of stuff than actually criticize it. This thread definitely is an example of a newbie stirring the pot, not thinking that it's probably been stirred by most everyone. Apologies for being so tacky. Maybe this could be the first thread about reclaimed dead horses. What can we make from a dead horse guys? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Dolmetscher007 said: I am a very light hearted guy, and make more fun of stuff than actually criticize it. This thread definitely is an example of a newbie stirring the pot, not thinking that it's probably been stirred by most everyone. Apologies for being so tacky. Maybe this could be the first thread about reclaimed dead horses. What can we make from a dead horse guys? ;-) Glue , I heard from a old timer you can make glue from horses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 First person to video with an artisanal video about reclaiming horses for glue will join the ranks of the viral artisanal pencil sharpening and firewood. Good luck to whomever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Aj3 said: Glue , I heard from a old timer you can make glue from horses. Oddly enough, it's true, but it's from the hooves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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