earbogast Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I want to remind everyone here that when Marc says to xxx out the waste, do it!!!!! Should I do a new cap or repair the gap? Too bad, it was a tight fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 bummer, start over. The bench is a lifetime bench. Start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Oh, dude. No good way that I can think of to repair that. Looks like a do-over. Sorry, that sucks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Is the white board long enough for you to go with a single dove tail? Not sure, but it might be simpler then a new cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisphr Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Oh no! So frustrating. I vote for a doing the part over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Oh that sucks but I say redo it. Punish yourself now for the mistake and you'll save yourself many mistakes down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Start anew tomorrow. Drink beer tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) I'm with Barron. Assuming you left the front laminate long, cut the tails off and do a single dovetail. Edit: now that I think about it, the end cap really isn't much work. Forget the single dovetail and redo the endcap. Should go faster the second time around. Edited November 8, 2015 by bgreenb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Either start over or single tail it if you want. I can't see of any way to fix that, gluing to end grain doesn't work so well. Looks like a case of CBDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earbogast Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 That's what I was afraid of. I'll go see what lumber is available and hope they have something contrasting. Thanks. Won't lose much time. I have the legs glued up and I'll just start the mortises or use maple on the end cap. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why not just glue a plug between the two tails to make one big tail? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Llama Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why not just glue a plug between the two tails to make one big tail? What am I missing?Because, anything short of a redo will look like a patch. And that isn't the right way to do it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Lopsided Dutchman. Big tail one way, much smaller tail the other, and contrasting both rail and cap. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 We saw the movie "Burnt" last night. One scene, Bradley Cooper, the chef, screws up and fires off the "F" bomb a thousand times and throws every pot and pan in the kitchen at least twice! I'm thinking something similiar happened in your shop when discovered your mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trip Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) ==>anything short of a redo will look like a patch. And that isn't the right way to do it.There's something to that... But then again, it's a bench... just a bench... A single dovetail is plenty strong enough... BTW: two reasons to leave it as a single dovetail: you're Roubo will have a unique detail and you'll never forget to mark the waste again... Edited November 9, 2015 by hhh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earbogast Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 No. Just silence and staring at it about 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 The tail recess is still not full depth. Finish it out correctly, then fill in the oops with a nice MoP or Abalone inlay. Or some other bling. Just do the other side to match, only we will ever know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Thats so frustrating! Happens to everyone. I vote redo as well. Pain in the a*@ but you will be happier with it in the long run. Sent from my SM-P550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I'd redo it, but if you do want to try a repair, you might try cutting the center pin deeper into the wood - say an inch or so, then cutting a floating pin that could be glued in place. That's assuming you have enough depth in the end. The face grain glue surface would be strong and I don't see that you'd be losing much, if any joint integrity. Edit - after looking at the photo more closely, that wouldn't be a good idea since the pin board grain orientation would mean you were still glueing to end grain. Do over! Edited November 9, 2015 by micks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Since your socket is not fully carved yet, I can think of different ways to fix it, but none will look good.Redo. It's a small part anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris H Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Looks like you are only a short way into the tail. You could finish the tail properly,and then trim the half inch or so off the face of the pins, giving you a flush, yet recessed fit. You could then cut a single piece to fit into the recess that is decorative. You lose the decorative twin tail look, but strength and functionality should be retained. You could also just bring the pins flush using the same process above, and then cut a small insert to fill the shallow middle gap. I'd probably re-cut, but it is an option. Edited November 11, 2015 by Chris H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earbogast Posted November 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Went and found some 8/4 cherry and made a new end cap. Everything went well and put on my tail vise today. Sticking at about 25% towards the handle so I'll work on that Saturday. Couldn't figure it out today but I'm spent. Thanks for the help everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinp2 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 That sucks... I would probably have redone the end camp as well. Glad it worked out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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