Chestnut Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, Tom Cancelleri said: I'm still trying to figure that out. I was thinking a stay put hose. Right now my biggest struggle with the cyclone is going to be changing my workflow to do all my tasks batched out. Seems stupid to turn on the dc for 1 hole at the drill press. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk I was thinking about that as well with DCs. If i need to make 1 quick small cut on my Table saw is it going to hurt anything if i don't turn the dc on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 One quick cut is no big deal but if you keep doing it repeatedly a pile of dust will build up that the DC won't just suck up. It will require opening up access and giving it some encouragement. If you use compressed air try for the lowest volume/pressure possible to avoid making a bigger mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 53 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I was thinking about that as well with DCs. If i need to make 1 quick small cut on my Table saw is it going to hurt anything if i don't turn the dc on? I try not to do any cuts without the DC on. If it's not on, more dust gets into the cabinet & sticks to the greased bits more. With it on, all the dust gets sucked up in the shroud. My thinking is that I won't have to clean & regrease as frequently. Sometimes I forget though, or for a really tiny cut I don't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Collecting dust/waste at a DP has for the most part eluded me. I do have a hose at the DP but it only works marginally well. The hose is long enough that I am able to pull it out of its holder and clean things up when I need to which is very nice. Regarding turning on the DC for a couple holes, or a quick cut, if its not on I don't turn it on unless it is at the J/P, I always turn it on for that machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, pkinneb said: Collecting dust/waste at a DP has for the most part eluded me. I do have a hose at the DP but it only works marginally well. Your problem is the hose. You're using a 2.5" hose which is not going to be able to pull the velocity and volume of air to pull away the dust and chips effectively. A dust collector doesn't work like a shop vac, and the minimum hose size that is acceptable is 3.5" though 4" is pretty much the accepted compromise for volume/velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I've actually had pretty good results with using about 5' of 2.5" flex from the blast gate. It sucks very well, though not as much as the shop vac. I think it depends on the blower on the DC, some deal with high static pressure better than others. I need to refine the system; now I just hang/tie/clamp the flex in the best place. Not very convenient. 41 minutes ago, Tom Cancelleri said: Your problem is the hose. You're using a 2.5" hose which is not going to be able to pull the velocity and volume of air to pull away the dust and chips effectively. A dust collector doesn't work like a shop vac, and the minimum hose size that is acceptable is 3.5" though 4" is pretty much the accepted compromise for volume/velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Tom, I remember seeing a real cool set up fro the drill press in one of Dave Stanton's videos unfortunately I can't recall which one. He had built some kind of hood type thing that went over the quill and the DC hooked up to that. I think it might be this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 hmm. That very well may be true but it is also that you have chips not just dust being thrown out by the drill bit. If you move the hose to close it gets in the way of the quill to far back and you have issues collecting the chips. Regarding hose size I do have two vacuum hoses connected to my dust collector (which i know you are not supposed to do) one 12' one 24' that I use to vacuum off tools etc one on each side of the shop and they work great. Things being what they are I do not like the 2 1/2" hose sitting there in my way so there is no way I would want a 4" hose there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Cancelleri Posted June 3, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I just did my very best Particleboard impression. I finished the drop for the minimax, which was the hardest drop I've done yet. Took 4 hours to layout and cut, assemble and install. I did it in 1 big L shaped assembly. While testing the drop with the anemometer, I wasn't holding tight enough and the anemometer went for a ride to cycloneville. I have to pipe the table saw/drum sander drop, and I'm done with everything except the cross shop run. I miscalculated the elbows, probably going to need 6 more to finish everything, I should be good on everything else, with a couple of blast gates to spare. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Does the meter still work? Nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, TIODS said: Does the meter still work? Nice job! It does work still. It got a little dusty, blew it off with the compressor. Hearing it rattling through the ducting was fun. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I guess you have to figure that if that went through there shouldn't be any problems with dust and chips. Might want to keep the pets away from the floor sweeps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's amazing what can get sucked up. I had a piece of 2x4 get sucked up & through the cyclone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I sure would love it if the shop was done and I could build something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 OK thermal engineers, put on your thinking caps. I left the A/C running in the shop last night, this created something I'm not happy about.... The beer can effect. Since I'm venting outside, humidity is able to introduce itself into my cyclone. With the ducting being cold, it creates condensation inside the ductwork. I'm thinking blast gate on the exhaust pipe to keep condensation from getting into the cyclone overnight. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Is there something like a giant dryer vent cap with a flapper available? If not, it wouldn't be hard to make one. The DC has plenty of push to open a flap that is heavy enough to seal well when closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Tom the dust collection is looking great. Where did you get your meter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 2 hours ago, drzaius said: Is there something like a giant dryer vent cap with a flapper available? If not, it wouldn't be hard to make one. The DC has plenty of push to open a flap that is heavy enough to seal well when closed. I have a louvered cap. I think I need to get a spring damper exhaust cap to try and combat the humidity from getting in. 17 minutes ago, estesbubba said: Tom the dust collection is looking great. Where did you get your meter? Thanks Mike, other than the humidity debacle today, the amount of suction is extremely impressive. I picked up this meter on Amazon. You need to do some math that for the area function. For instance, to set the area for a 4" duct, you do radius squared x 3.14 / 144 = .087, or for 6" ducts is .196 http://www.amazon.com/HYELEC-MS6252A-Digital-Speed-Anemometer/dp/B019RU17XC/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1465093402&sr=8-9&keywords=anemometer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I insulated the first 10 feet of my intake air loop to prevent this from happening in the winter. Maybe you could do that on your exhaust. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I've used these copper ones, and they are a lot more well made than the cheap aluminum ones in the box stores: http://www.luxurymetals.com/WallVents.html?ne_ppc_id=1972&ne_key_id=31618836&gclid=CjwKEAjwm8-6BRDgnb-Dk96UmRASJADbMycY6eeOE0oC8_zcSwYrK-RU32Qz5Tl1BuV4vYCLJ6kKZBoCv1Xw_wcB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Haven't done anything since Sunday. Having taken the week off and haven't been in the shop since Monday, it's a good feeling to take a break and motivate myself to get back out there and finish it up. I'm off for the next 9 days. Gonna be a big push to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 And they're off! Started this morning by going to home depot to exchange my sub panel. It had a huge dent in the corner that would have made it not sit against the wall. My old sub panel is now disconnected, and now to remove the old wire and install new wire. This part sucks a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I never got around to buying special cutters for heavy wires. Pruning loppers, sharpened with a file, work just fine. Getting them into final place usually requires the use of a hammer, and colorful language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I used to run big telecom and power cable, I've got all sorts of stupid specialty cutters and installation tools. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Old panel is out, new panel is in. I had to move the fire stop up about 8 inches nothing like cutting a 2x4 by hand because your shop has No power other than the garage door opener and ceiling switch for 2 lights. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Also, this thing is awesome! It's name is now the phucker upper. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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