Tom King Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I've never owned a Paslode, but a Dewalt I bought once when my old Senco needed a part, and I couldn't wait, came with a fold up hook. I had gotten so used to using one without a hook, that the one on the Dewalt was more of an irritation to me than not having one. Shop looks great! I hope you'll be happy there for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Kudos to Shaneymack he's a machine ! Building suspended stuff like that by yourself is a right pain in the ass ! So does the rod hang from a crosspiece above the ceiling trusses or just the 2x4 that's screwed below the Sheetrock ? If you paint the underside of that mezzanine white it will bounce light much better. I never did at my last shop and it wasn't as bright as I would have liked below it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Looking great man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Your shop is incredible man. Lol, thanks man. It's getting there but still far from incredible ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Shop is almost there and I bet your glad. Like how you have it laid out so far. Hope things are slowing down some now at home. Slowing down? What's that? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 @shaneymack What kind of stuff will go up on the mezzanine? Systainers? lol Definitely not systainers, they deserve way more respect than that ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Kudos to Shaneymack he's a machine ! Building suspended stuff like that by yourself is a right pain in the ass ! So does the rod hang from a crosspiece above the ceiling trusses or just the 2x4 that's screwed below the Sheetrock ? If you paint the underside of that mezzanine white it will bounce light much better. I never did at my last shop and it wasn't as bright as I would have liked below it. Thanks, Steve! I totally agree, doing suspended stuff is a ton of work especially with no scaffold. If the shop wasn't full of crap I would have set myself up better than just a ladder. The 2x4s on the ceiling are screw into the joists above which are 12" o.c. the threaded rod was put through the 2x4 and into the ceiling. I predrilled a 2" hole in the gyproc to accept the rod, nut and washer. At the mezzanine end, the rod is sandwiched between 2 2x4s with a small dado in each so that rod can pass between them. Painting the mezzanine white would be a great idea. I've been thinking of it, just not sure I will do it anytime soon. I just want to start using the shop already ! The grandfather clock has to be ready in 30 days !!! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedhardwoods Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 That was a lot of work in a short time. Looks great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaneymack Posted August 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Been trying to chip away at this here and there . Busy week with the kids starting school.... The mezzanine is complete and so is all the duct work ! Next up I had to do the plumbing for the sink. Need to tie into the lines in the basement which meant drilling through the concrete wall. Hilti, Stabila and Festool all in the same pic....the construction trifecta ! I got the sink in after work today It will be my sharpening area so I added a light under the upper cabinets. Hopefully by the end of this long weekend I will have the shop at 100%. Grandfather clock reveal is Sept 16 !!!!!! Gotta get my arse I gear! Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Looking great Shane! Nice having a sink in the shop. I use mine all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Shane - what is the box assembly in the DC line with the FT sticker on it? Is that a home built transition for the flange? I'm asking because I need to come up with some sort of flange to transition from the cyclone to where the filter is to port the fines outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Shane - what is the box assembly in the DC line with the FT sticker on it? Is that a home built transition for the flange? I'm asking because I need to come up with some sort of flange to transition from the cyclone to where the filter is to port the fines outside. That is exactly what it is. My duct guy made me that custom transition to be able to vent outside. It goes to an 8" round duct. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Shane couple questions. Did you have your collector direct vented before? If so any issues with heat/air conditioning loss? Can you post a pick of the outside? Also how on earth did you get that motor lifted that high? Looks great by the way and I would love to have running water in my shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Shane couple questions. Did you have your collector direct vented before? If so any issues with heat/air conditioning loss? Can you post a pick of the outside? Also how on earth did you get that motor lifted that high? Looks great by the way and I would love to have running water in my shop. Hi Paul, Yes I had my system vented outside at my last shop. I don't have AC so that isn't a concern. As for heat, the only issue I have is that when the dust collector is on, the heat gets sucked out LOL. I've said this many times before, it doesn't bother me at all. Even if I run my DC for 10-15 mins straight (which doesn't happen often in a hobby shop) the shop does not get freezing cold and the heater heats it back up quickly. To me, this is totally worth it to not have to deal with filter cleaning. Also, the system is MUCH stronger since I vented outside. It's a lot quieter as well. I wouldn't have it any other way. The top of the motor is a few inches away from the ceiling and the ceilings are almost 12' in my shop. It took some heaving and grimacing but we got er done. My bro and I were on ladders and my dad pushed from the ground. It almost fell and we almost died but all is good now LOL. I am super stoked to have the sink in the shop. I figured since I was starting from scratch that I might as well do it right. I had a big slop sink in my first shop and loved it. I will try to remember to take a picture of the exterior for you tomorrow. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaneymack Posted August 31, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Shane couple questions. Did you have your collector direct vented before? If so any issues with heat/air conditioning loss? Can you post a pick of the outside? Also how on earth did you get that motor lifted that high? Looks great by the way and I would love to have running water in my shop. Here are a few pics as requested. If ever you want a video of the sound from outside/inside the shop let me know. It's craz how much quieter it is in the shop. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Thanks Shane! I really need to think about this. In my current design I have the motor/cyclone/bin in a closet with the filter on the shop side of the wall. I did this because I was/am concerned about pumping the conditioned air out of the shop. However the noise is really starting to bug me so I have been thinking about a small closet on the back wall of the shop but doing that really doesn't solve the problem if I have to keep it open to the shop to pump the conditioned air back in the shop. If I decide to just pump it out I may as well just do what you have done in your shop. Thanks again for sharing!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeset202 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I am considering venting outside as well, my shop (30x40) has a large gas furnace and I decided to use a filter because I would need to open one of my doors slightly to allow replacement air, and that's a lot of space to reheat! I am looking at putting in a diverter gate to allow me to vent outside most of the year and only run through the filters when I am running my furnace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I can picture someone slipping out the back door of Shaneymack's shop into a dust shower ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I can picture someone slipping out the back door of Shaneymack's shop into a dust shower ! Lol, there isn't that much dust coming out. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk I am considering venting outside as well, my shop (30x40) has a large gas furnace and I decided to use a filter because I would need to open one of my doors slightly to allow replacement air, and that's a lot of space to reheat! I am looking at putting in a diverter gate to allow me to vent outside most of the year and only run through the filters when I am running my furnace. I will have a return air duct installed in the next few weeks. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 3:41 PM, pkinneb said: Thanks Shane! I really need to think about this. In my current design I have the motor/cyclone/bin in a closet with the filter on the shop side of the wall. I did this because I was/am concerned about pumping the conditioned air out of the shop. However the noise is really starting to bug me so I have been thinking about a small closet on the back wall of the shop but doing that really doesn't solve the problem if I have to keep it open to the shop to pump the conditioned air back in the shop. If I decide to just pump it out I may as well just do what you have done in your shop. Thanks again for sharing!! Sorry for the diversion, but for something like this, would using the core of an HRV (heat recover ventilator) work? This is nowhere near my area of expertise, but we have an HRV in our house and it does a great job and seems very efficient. I was surprised that the core of it is very simple and quite small. I wonder if you could install this inline just before venting to the outside. The fresh air could be drawn in from further away so as not to bring in the dust you're getting rid of. In theory this should minimize some of the loss of heat/AC. Does this sound even reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Art said: Sorry for the diversion, but for something like this, would using the core of an HRV (heat recover ventilator) work? I believe the flow rates are quite different. Add to that that the ejected fines will swirl quite a bit. You'd need exhaust and inlet far apart. With standard HRV, you are trying for super efficient furnace effect, or just dumping the occasional high humidity air. Humidity does not cause the same respiratory trouble as fine dust, so if it swirls it will still dry out a lot with each cycle outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Sorry for the diversion, but for something like this, would using the core of an HRV (heat recover ventilator) work? This is nowhere near my area of expertise, but we have an HRV in our house and it does a great job and seems very efficient. I was surprised that the core of it is very simple and quite small. I wonder if you could install this inline just before venting to the outside. The fresh air could be drawn in from further away so as not to bring in the dust you're getting rid of. In theory this should minimize some of the loss of heat/AC. Does this sound even reasonable? The last time my hvac guy set up the intake with around 16' of duct on a big loop. The entrance was up high and the pipe dropped to the floor and looped right back all the way to the top of the wall. The concept was that the air had a chance to warm up a bit before it actually entered the shop. He will probably so something similar here. Once it is installed I will post some pics. An HRV wouldn't work because of the speed the air would be passing inside the box. I think it would be too fast for the heat to transfer to the cool air. Then there is the problem of your contaminated air mixing with your fresh air. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: The last time my hvac guy set up the intake with around 16' of duct on a big loop. The entrance was up high and the pipe dropped to the floor and looped right back all the way to the top of the wall. The concept was that the air had a chance to warm up a bit before it actually entered the shop. He will probably so something similar here. Once it is installed I will post some pics. An HRV wouldn't work because of the speed the air would be passing inside the box. I think it would be too fast for the heat to transfer to the cool air. Then there is the problem of your contaminated air mixing with your fresh air. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk That sounds like a reasonable solution. Basically you're trying to achieve counter current heat exchange. Your system could be made a bit more efficient if the venting to the outside was physically looped alongside the incoming air. Either way, I'd be curious to hear if your system actually warms up the air noticeably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I bet you'd have to parallel about 10 residential sized HRVs to be able to handle that air volume of a DC. The amount of air that goes through an HRV is pretty small, about the same as a couple of decent bath fans. And those things are EXPENSIVE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaneymack Posted September 5, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Got to spend some time finalizing the shop today. I unpacked all the clamps. And got them up on the wall. I was able to use the little ledge under the clamps to put the clamping accessories. Got my woodpeckers gear on the wall. I screwed a piece of 3/4" plywood to the wall to be able to screw a bunch of stuff in that area. I am making some brackets to install all the Festool mfs profiles and the routing slide amongst other things. And of course I hung up the most important decoration! My two year old is obsessed with being in the shop. He wants to use EVERY THING. I gave him a measuring tape and a mallet and he went to town on some plywood. Lol. He is such an amazing little guy. So the shop isn't 100% organized but it certainly is good enough to get back to work on the grandfather clock. We give it to my Dad on Sept 16.....12 days away !!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH !!!! Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Sweet! I envy where you are Shane! I know I've got that all coming up and I'd trade places with you in a heartbeat! Nice work bud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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