Hammer5573 Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I’m looking to purchase a new dovetail saw soon and was looking for some input regarding the brand that people prefer. My son gave me a Rob Cosman crosscut saw for Christmas and I have to say that it is an awesome handsaw; however, it’s pricey. I do like the fit of the handgrip on the Cosman saw. I have a Veritas dovetail saw but I’m just not sold on the design. Any input would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Bad Axe, you can customize the handle size, wood/spine choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 My favorite is my Rob Cosman DT saw. I have a couple other handsaws, both Bad Axe ,which are awesome as well but for DT's its always the Cosman. I have no personal experience but I have heard good thongs about the Veritas DT saw is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have been really happy with my Bad Axe. Like a lot of things, so much of it is how the saw feels in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I've never had one of the boutique saws in my hand. My dovetail saw is an old Stanley that I'll put up against any, in my hands. The important part is in the sharpening, which I do myself. I see that LN is getting 40 bucks for sharpening one. Maybe I should go in the saw sharpening business, when I retire. The LN dovetail saws look pretty hard to beat, for the price though. If I was needing to buy a new one, that's probably where I would start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Ha! My "dovetail saw" is a cheap, hardware store backsaw, salvaged from a miter box kit and re-filed for rip cuts. If I was going for a 'boutique' saw, it would have to be a BearCat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Llama said: Bad Axe, you can customize the handle size, wood/spine choices. Hey Mel! Where the hell you been and how are you and the family? Miss ya bud! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Sawdust Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 I have the Veritas and it’s the fine tooth version. It’s ok, but nothing to write home about. I use my LN carcasse saw for larger dovetails and it works fine for that. I don’t have a boutique saw for dovetails; my skill level doesn’t match some of the tools I already have! I’ve even used a hacksaw and that works well too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Llama Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Coop said: Hey Mel! Where the hell you been and how are you and the family? Miss ya bud! We're all doing well. Got very busy with a bunch of things... Still am really... Just one thing after another! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 I have these saws for dovetailing, and a couple carcase saws for somewhat larger cuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Sawdust Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 @RichardA Looks like you have a few hand planes to the side as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Yeah, one or two. No matter how I try to avoid it, I can never really get the wood exactly the way I want it with machines alone. I can't think of one project, that I would consider "furniture" that doesn't wind up with a hand plane of some sort being part of the construction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 The Lie-Nielsen has become an excellent value saw. If it fits your budget, I fail to see how you'll go wrong. If you're on a tight budget a gents saw is very effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, G S Haydon said: The Lie-Nielsen has become an excellent value saw. If it fits your budget, I fail to see how you'll go wrong. If you're on a tight budget a gents saw is very effective. Wha whaaaaaaaaa???????? How are you Graham?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Graham! Totally spaced on the name! Good to see you here, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Welcome back. Where the hell have you been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Sawdust Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 hours ago, G S Haydon said: The Lie-Nielsen has become an excellent value saw. If it fits your budget, I fail to see how you'll go wrong. If you're on a tight budget a gents saw is very effective. To add to that - I've never bought a LN tool I didn't immediately fall in love with. The price can be a shocker but you never regret it once it's in your hands against wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Tpt life said: Wha whaaaaaaaaa???????? How are you Graham?? +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post G S Haydon Posted April 27, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I'm good thanks chaps. Hope you're all well? I had a heath issue to get on top of, thankfully I have. Hopefuly I can keep checking in a be part of the community. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I use my LN dovetail saw. I like Japanese saws too, they were my first choice when I started cutting dovetails, but I found out I make more accurate cuts with my LN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post derekcohen Posted April 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 If you are starting down the path of dovetailing, get the Veritas 14 ppi dovetail saw. This is a comfortable saw to use, and the teeth are sharpened at a 14 degree rake. This makes it one of the easiest dovetail saws to start. It is a little slower to cut, but overall offers the novice the most control. If you are reasonably practiced, get the Lie Nielsen. This is 15 tpi, but the teeth have around 2-3 degrees of rake. This makes the saw cut fast, but significantly harder to start the cut. As a result, there is less control at this stage than the Veritas if unpracticed with such saws. If you are advanced, get the Gramercy dovetail saw. This is a saw that must be held with the lightest grip, which forces you to let the saw do the work. You need experience to loosen your grip like this. However, it will reward with a smooth, controlled action. Regards from Perth Derek 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer5573 Posted April 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 I have the Veritas but it’s too light; I like a heavier saw. I’m thinking that it’s either the Gramercy or the Cosman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekcohen Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hammer5573 said: I have the Veritas but it’s too light; I like a heavier saw. I’m thinking that it’s either the Gramercy or the Cosman The Gramercy is the lightest saw of them all. It is the complete opposite of the Rob Cosman saw. The RC saw looks nice, but it is designed for a beginner. Dovetail sawing requires a light touch for control. The heavy weight of the RC saw is like taking a sledge hammer to swap a fly. Review of the Gramercy: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/GramercyDovetailSaw.html Regards from Perth Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hammer5573 You're in danger of getting to much advice. Fine Woodworking have done reviews on dovetail saws and the Cosman range of saws and said they are great. If you can get to a show, tool meet or club to try some out, that would be helpful. Any of the saws you are thinking about using will have good resale value if you don't like them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer5573 Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Yes....as much as I appreciate Derek’s advice, I prefer a heavier saw in my hand. As I mentioned in my initial post, I have a Cosman crosscut saw and do like it. I guess it’s just user preference. I do appreciate all of the great information that all of you experts have given me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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