Chestnut Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I can't remember what my research yielded but i was going to do the makita saw with the festool track. I'm pretty sure they were compatible then i get the benefits of the high tolerances where i need them and a less expensive saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Yup, I know I read the same. I just don't remember seeing the Makita saw by it's self. The FS tracks are, if course, expensive, but if I remember right there is a good variety of lengths. I like the idea of a ~25 inch track for some cross cuts that are more difficult on other tools. That is a valid option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 45 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: Yup, I know I read the same. I just don't remember seeing the Makita saw by it's self. The FS tracks are, if course, expensive, but if I remember right there is a good variety of lengths. I like the idea of a ~25 inch track for some cross cuts that are more difficult on other tools. That is a valid option. I have the ts75 and 3 tracks that put me at a little over 12' when they are put together. It is a great system and I have no regrets. When I bought the 75 it was the only saw that had the depth of cut I needed. One of the things I really like is that I can attach a router to a track for dados and more. But that is also the rub...it committed me to Festool routers, which meant more money. With the choices today, I would also look at Dewalt, as they have a system for attaching a router. I don't know if Makita or Grizzly have something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The grizzly is cheap garbage compared to the makita. Quality of cut and ergonomics are widely different. Go look up Marcs review on the grizzly. Here is the makita sold without the track http://www.cpooutlets.com/makita-sp6000j-6-1-2-in--plunge-circular-saw/mktnsp6000j,default,pd.html?cgid=circular-saws Edit: Didn't mean to come across so harsh I'm sure the grizzly is working well for some people, I just think there is an obvious difference in quality and features on the makita. But if all you need is to cut the occasional plywood straight, it should do the job just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 2 hours ago, bleedinblue said: Yup, I know I read the same. I just don't remember seeing the Makita saw by it's self. The FS tracks are, if course, expensive, but if I remember right there is a good variety of lengths. I like the idea of a ~25 inch track for some cross cuts that are more difficult on other tools. That is a valid option. I bought a 42" track and they have a 32". I was going to buy the 32" but Acme only had the 42" in their store. I'm glad that i didn't get the 32" it would have been too short to be useful. If you open things up to the routers and other things on the track the 32" has a lot more utility but it's nice to have a lot of space on either side with the track saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Llama Posted November 12, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I have the TS75, and an MFT. The MFT is much more versatile that I thought it would have been. Having said that, I am in a unique spot... I sold all of my power tools except for my Festool stuff when I moved. So, I am without a tablesaw right now... For me, the MFT is indispensable. That might change when I get my Euro-Slider tablesaw. The MFT is also useful for a work surface, and more than stable for the stuff I've done so far. I wouldn't trust it as is to go at a board with a jack plane, but the smoothing and jointing I have done has been fine. And I do not have the stability bars. Edge jointing a resawn panel for a door... Panel after glue-up - Some centerline marking to align the profile... That is in hard maple... Not some pine crap to deceive you. And a new toy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I've watched Marc's review of the Grizzly a few times, I actually thought it to be a favorable review. The issues he points out, the stiff spring, the dust control, the quality of cut and most importantly the rocking on the track, all have very quick and easy fixes. Something else for me to consider as far as price though, the Griz is $250'ish, but add in tax and shipping and it's going to be much closer to $300. The Makita is on Amazon for $399 (with the 55 inch track) For that little price difference, I don't think I could justify the cheaper saw. I could always add FT tracks later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 hours ago, bleedinblue said: I'm not seeing a lot of reviews saying they ended up with warped tracks. That would be a concern though. The Makita is probably the likely choice if I decide the Griz isn't good enough but I don't want to pay for the festool. The Makita does come in a systainer, too. The Dewalt plunge action seems wonky, and I haven't seen much info on the Triton. I do have the Festool sander rebate voucher though, so if I decide on the FT, there's $50 off the top. I had some slight warpage on my Makita track. It's exactly like JosephThomas says below where I quoted. I'm just going to go to a "local" (sorta local) place and buy some festool tracks at some point. 4 hours ago, JosephThomas said: I have the makita. The track is straight along the cut, which is the most important thing... But it is slightly bowed along its length when you lay it flat, so I have to use the clamps to keep it that most of the time. Cut quality is great, dust collection is great, price was awesome. The systainer will stack with festool o ones, but the latches on it suck in comparison. Not worth the huge price difference to me for a better systainer, just saying you should lower expectations a little Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 What's the latest on the taco situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Mel,just curious. Why the Slider ts over others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klappco Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Smoked a pork butt for the potluck at work this week. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Klappco said: Smoked a pork butt for the potluck at work this week. . Everything seems to be going according to plan here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, K Cooper said: Mel,just curious. Why the Slider ts over others? There are a few reasons I want a slider... Bunch of little things really... Here is an incomplete list, really a rambling.. I like the idea of a slider for breaking down material, seems much more efficient than other methods. The slider is set slightly higher than the table you can break down slabs with out concern for kickback or binding, and the slider carries the weight of the workpiece. Better access for blade changes. Better DC. Adjustable rip fence can be placed before the blade to be used to set up repeatable cross cuts. More power, the Hammer saws have more power than many of the American saws. The Hammer has a 12" blade, more capacity for large slabs. The saw also has a break, when the power is cut off the blade stops. Doesn't keep spinning forever. No need for a cross cut sled. Straight line rip when using the slider. Overall, it just makes more sense to me... It is a bit more money than a Sawstop, but not really by much. And the Hammer is a true slider, not an afterthought like all aftermarket options for sliders. Takes up less room. So many people think of it as a panel saw, good only for sheet goods, which couldn't be more wrong. (yes, there is wrong and more wrong)... Aside from the little extra money, there are no downsides to a sliding tablesaw. Oh, and everyone has a damn Sawstop or PM. I do like being just a tad bit different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yeah, we don't need an electoral college here about you being different! And sheets goods was the first thing that came to mind. I thought maybe you were going into the cabinet business. Thanks for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, K Cooper said: Yeah, we don't need an electoral college here about you being different! And sheets goods was the first thing that came to mind. I thought maybe you were going into the cabinet business. Thanks for the insight. Something tells me I'd win the popular vote as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Llama said: What's the latest on the taco situation? Will you be doing reindeer this year? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yes! Always Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Reindeer tacos ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 I don't know off this is online but it says you could call in an order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Llama said: What's the latest on the taco situation? Grabbed dinner with a friend at a brew pub. Had the worst tacos you can imagine. I'm going for tacos for lunch tomorrow at El Charrito (best tacos in CT!) to wash the memory of these tacos from my life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: I don't know off this is online but it says you could call in an order. Can't read all those...what are the highlights? I see laguna @ 10% off, PM too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 hours ago, JosephThomas said: Can't read all those...what are the highlights? I see laguna @ 10% off, PM too. Laguna jet powermatic forrest @10% Bosch dewalt makita freud milwalke @15% The ones you can't read probably aren't woodworking tool companies. Idk if that crop makes it any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yeah, right after I buy my damn bandsaw it goes on sale. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 This guy's pic made me instantly think of someone here... http://www.ragnbonemanmusic.com/home.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Pretty sure I'm ordering the Laguna tomorrow or the next day. 10% came at just the right time. There goes my clamp monies though. Clamps will have to wait until next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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