Hurricane Dry Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, AceHoleInOne said: So if I stuff a scrap of poplar under my pillow at night, may do the trick................ -Ace- I have no doubt that will result in a productive visit from the wood fairy. Lessor known cousin of the tooth fairy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 My argument from the start of the thread has been about durability. Bed joints take body weight stress. Under a married couple or larger groups we are talking multiple bodies of stress. I have seen enough dents in old growth heart flooring and framing that I shy away. I never espoused hate, but would never build a bed of it. Slats and glue blocks are another matter. Drawer boxes are also fair game for me. Paint grade trim and cabinetry even can work in my flow. You need to read all comments if you want to make universal statements Pwk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mike. said: "larger groups" - what goes on there in northern indiana? That made me laugh too. wait till Steve gets ahold of it! Sorry, Shaffer, not directed at you, just 3 pages of people stomping poplar aesthetics. I dont think it looks that terrible, and the OP is trying to make some money off the build. Strength and glue bonds are a legitimate concern for a bed. Comparison between walnut and poplar poplar http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/articles/view/pro/24/315 walnut http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/articles/view/pro/24/320 They arent that far off from one another in strength. Of course poplar suffers under the hardness test comparison, but shear strength etc is pretty similar. Just because it is soft doesnt mean it is weak. I cant imagine breaking a proper M&T joint made of 8/4 hardwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 11:20 AM, RichardA said: Simple, I explained everything I know about Poplar to him while he was sober! Then I got him 3/4 of the way drunk and went through the whole thing again. No change! Sounds like he has another 1/4 of the way to go. Time go get another bottle and explain it to him again.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, Pwk5017 said: Just because it is soft doesnt mean it is weak. I agree with this. Too bad it's U - G - L - Y You ain't got no alibi. You ugly. What? What? You ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Eric. said: I agree with this. Too bad it's U - G - L - Y You ain't got no alibi. You ugly. What? What? You ugly. lol this forum cracks me up, because the moderators troll people. Ok, this ugly thing was making me laugh, but I had to look up the origin of it. 1986 movie? I was born 2 years too late, blast! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Pwk5017 said: lol this forum cracks me up, because the moderators troll people. Hey man, moderators are humans, too. Basically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted October 27, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Okay guys, this is the end of this thread. My customer wants these two beds made out of poplar. His mind will not be changed, no matter what I say or do. And I ain't tryin that drinkin and talkin again [it hurts an old man] ! I did manage this for this build, No stains, no oils, only polyurethane. And a written agreement that if he doesn't like the end result, I get full compensation for the build. Now that's the end of it. When the build is complete, I will post pics... not for anyone's reaction to the wood that was chosen, but for the design and construction Thank you for the many remarks, good and bad... But the customer is going to get exactly what he wants. Th th thh that's all folks! 46 minutes ago, Eric. said: Hey man, moderators are humans, too. Basically. Uh, only on the third Tuesday of the week! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Mike. said: "larger groups" - what goes on there in northern indiana? 2 hours ago, Pwk5017 said: That made me laugh too. wait till Steve gets ahold of it! @Mike. Steve's comments are exactly why I felt I needed to acknowledge the behavior. I am happily attached, cannot justify, and cannot imagine trying to keep up with multiples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdabroxx Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, RichardA said: Okay guys, this is the end of this thread. My customer wants these two beds made out of poplar. His mind will not be changed, no matter what I say or do. And I ain't tryin that drinkin and talkin again [it hurts an old man] ! I did manage this for this build, No stains, no oils, only polyurethane. And a written agreement that if he doesn't like the end result, I get full compensation for the build. Now that's the end of it. When the build is complete, I will post pics... not for anyone's reaction to the wood that was chosen, but for the design and construction Thank you for the many remarks, good and bad... But the customer is going to get exactly what he wants. Th th thh that's all folks! Uh, only on the third Tuesday of the week! Post pictures of the lumber when you get it. I'd like to see what he/you pick out, I'm assuming being that it is your wood guy he will have plenty to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted October 27, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, xxdabroxx said: Post pictures of the lumber when you get it. I'd like to see what he/you pick out, I'm assuming being that it is your wood guy he will have plenty to choose from. I've begun. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Seven on a waterbed is my record. Unfortunately mostly clothed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Dry Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 hours ago, RichardA said: I've begun. If you have the time, I would definitely like to see the end result when you get there. I often use poplar and southern yellow pine for certain projects due to cost and availability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Personally, I like the variations of "character" that poplar shows. I have some poplar drink coasters that my son turned on the thing we call a lathe, they are a beautiful golden color. I made a picture frame with a poplar "matt", the poplar aged from pale & greenish to a warm yellowish brown. I found a stick of spalted poplar and used it to make keepsake box tops. Unless I'm planning to accentuate the grain pores for some reason, I would generally choose poplar over red oak for most projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted November 12, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Here's the finished product, I wound up, "with his approval" to just poly the raw wood. With his understanding that the green will turn brown, and not all at the same time, and the white will go tan again, not all at the same time. He said he didn't care, they're going in a spare room upstairs that he doesn't go in more than once every year or two. Looks are unimportant to him, serviceability doesn't concern him and whoever sleeps there won't care either! I forgot to get a close up of the rail joints, but this is the mock up I made for them.. The wedge is mostly for show and insurance. Delivery is next Saturday or Sunday. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nice design Rick. Is the last picture with the poly or just odd lighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nice job Richard! I'd take it in my spare room any time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Chet K. said: Nice design Rick. Is the last picture with the poly or just odd lighting? Odd lighting, in the garden tool room! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nice job making lemonade out of those lemons, Rick. Solid work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nice work, damn man you could make that thing look like cherry in a heart beat if you can spray, possibly wipe. Talk um into to it for a few dollars more Nice job brotha! -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Nice work Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted November 12, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric. said: Nice job making lemonade out of those lemons, Rick. Solid work. After using "hard" lemonade on him several times, and failing to get a better option.... The choice was easy, make lemonade. I did however try not to include any metal in any part of the build. All the M/T joints are pegged and glued, all the support system is pegged and glued, and it's an easy takedown if it needs to be moved. Pop out the wedges, lift the rails out of their slots and you wind up with exactly 7 pieces. Or he can just toss it on the fire! Thanks to all who encouraged me to get this done, those that didn't encourage me can get sucked up by a dust collector. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post treeslayer Posted November 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 while poplar isn't popular (sorry guys) it was a great way to showcase your woodworking skills and they are first rate, congrats Rick, on to the next project! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Helluva nice job there bud! That will hold up to any romping thrown at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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