Popular Post Ronn W Posted May 30, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Kym's Table: It's finally started. Dining table for my daughter. Table will be 44" x 96'. No leaves ( A monster ). All white Oak with, at her request, a whitewash finish that allows the wood color to show through as well. Here's the approved design. The top will be 1 1/4" thick. The legs will be 1 1/2" x 3" (4 - 3/4" laminations). The bases will be 3" high x 5" wide. Joints will be dominos with my new 500. The obligatory picture of the wood. On the bench and in the racks beyon about 100 BF composed of 4/4, 5/4 and 6/4. Just discover today that I neglected to get the 6/4 for the breadboard ends so will have to make anouther trip when I start working on the top. Legs and framing will be done first. Patterns for the top support, base and legs. I have the benefit of a large format printer that I used to print out the leg pattern. The other 2 patterns were done with straight edge and compass. Top supports and base pieces rough cut for milling. I will get 2 to 3 laminations out of each. Piaces for legs rough cut. I will get 2 laminations out of each piece. 16 total. Since I only have a 6" jointer I will be jointing 6" wide and using a sled in the planer. Widest piece is about 9" wide. The trick to getting this thing to fit together will be to make the mortises after glueing the lams together and squaring up the pieces but before doing any bandsaw work, especially true for the legs. More to come..... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hope you have help to move that thing after assembly! That table has near Roubo-esque proportions! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I could see myself building something like this and when finished thinking how the heck am I getting this to its final destination. I like the leg design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I will have to attach the top to the rest on site. No way I could get the whole thing out of my basement in one piece. The top will be a bear all by itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 nice work Ronn, thanks for taking us along for the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterL Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 After spending a weekend with you, I know this will be done right. I like your plan. Thanks for taking us all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Wow. This will be a great journal to follow along. That will be a beast of a table! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 This is gonna be a great ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Basher Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Ronn W said: Table will be 44" x 96'. No leaves ( A monster ). We had a dining table made that has a solid top 118" x 43" and 1.25" thick, with 3" x 1" apron rails. That is a heavy monster. It was delivered by a delivery company rather than the company who made it and they just dumped it on our driveway. Even without the legs attached getting it inside was, shall we say, interesting. I remember it involved the use of 2 trolley jacks and copious mounts of questionable language. It wasn't just the weight, it was difficult to manhandle and navigate through multiple doorways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 This is going to be a really cool project. Good luck to ya Ronn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Started gluing up the pieces that will be multiple lams. The easy ones first, The top supports (3" x 2"). I had a little movement (bending) of the pieces after milling the individual lams. Decided to clamp it down to the workbench as well as clamp the lams together. Workbench is pretty flat. Here's the other set. remove clamps, scrape glue, run through jointer to square the piece, then to the paner for final thicknessing. I stopped just short of final thickeness and will take the last pass this evening when the other piece is ready. The jointer and planer work were done within about 90 miuntes of glueing so the glue is not totally rock hard. Hoping that will be easier on the blades. Thiniking ahead: I plan to let the pins in the breadboards secure the end of the table so won't need 8Foot long clamps but for the other direction I need to get some clamps. Any deals on 48" clamps that you are aware of? Maybe I will just by some pipe since I won't be using 48" clamps that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Buy pipe in 24" lengths, and couplings. Becomes much more useful for many more projects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 this is going to be fun ... really looking forward to seeing how you do the base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Now the base peices. In this pic the pattern piece is ont he bottom. Used guide blocks at both ends to prevent tearout. First Piece. Cut bases to length a little too soon. befroe I added 2 more lams to each base for a thickness of 3". Set aside until it is time to mark bases and legs for mortises. Added 2 more lams to bases and routed using first 2 lams as pattern. After cutting moretises for legs will add 1 more inch to each side for total thickness of 5" . On to the legs. In order to be able to layout mortises I will have to maintain straight edges to measure from. Each board will yeild 2 legs. First joint one edge and then rip just enough off of opposite side to have parallel edges. Then make first cut between the 2 legs. Look closely to see pencil lines for legs, Now to make sure that each elg has parallel sides.Red pencils show sides already parallel. Brown pencils show sides line that need to be cut parallel Cuts down on table saw. Band saw work done. About 1/16" outside the lines. Align legs and mark enter line and width of area that must remian straight. No router between the lines. First piece to be router already has tape applied. Love the bit with 2 bearings. This one can cut 1 1/2" which it exactly the thickness I have. Made 6" long cross pieces out of scrap from the legs. Test clamped them together and measured the width from leg to leg. All 4 masurements were within 1/32". I can live iwth that. Legs are not yet cut to final length. Working everything of the centerline. The legs are not yet final thickness. Must add one more 3/4" lam to each side of each leg so they are a total of 3" thick. But Since the Domino 500 can only cut so far from the face of a board, I first need to cut the mortises for the cross piece. Am now in the porcess of setting up and practicing iwth my new Domino jointer. Pretty slick. One problem........Folowing the instrcution manual, I cannot get the centering scale to center on the width of the domino. I have moved the scale all the way to one side and even trimmed the edges of plastic a little. Each try is a little better. I started out 1 1/2' line widths off. I am now limited by the body of the screw against the sides of the holes in the plastic scale and am still 1/2 line width (about 1/4 mm) off. Will call Festool on Monday. Frustrating. I admit that is most cases I will not be using the tightest fit, but still. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterL Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 @Ronn W, That is interesting and indeed frustrating about the Domino. My only other suggestion is to work through the Domino DF500 Supplemental Manual, I found it enormously helpful in getting started with the domino in different applications. I can't attach the PDF, but if you google it or PM me your email address I'll send it your way. Goodluck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ronn W Posted June 7, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Now starts the domino joints. New tool. Hope it goes weil. Dbl tenon to join short spreaders to legs. One mortise set on "sloppy" becaause I am uncertain about how accurate I will be. Now that those mortises are cut I can addanother oam to each side of the leg to bring it to full size. Cut legs to length. The part of the leg in contact with the sled fence it dead straight from the initial milling allowing me to cut the legs at 90 degress to that surface. Legs ready for edge work and sanding. Now the part I am most nervous about, llaying out and cutting dble mortises on both ends of each leg and hoping it all fits together. After the adivse that I got on another thread about the domino, I decide to try cutting them all on the "tight fit" setting. I can always shave the tenons if needed. The first one fit..... and Hot Damn!!!! They all fit... a little rubber mallet action requried but they all fit. This more fun than Disney World. It's been a good day! Here's the dry fit. I am starting to like the domino jointer. I love the alignment of the legs to the top piece and base. Just a little sanding required. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thats some nice work Ronn. The legs are looking great. Looks like the first go around with the domino went well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisc Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Nice work. It's all coming together. Are they the 10x50 dominos? I've been wondering how big you can go before they become too small for the job. I suppose the weight/load is different on your legs to a "traditional" table with aprons and legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Lookin good Ronn, I'm enjoyin the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 coming along very well Ronn, nice work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 I just got caught up with this one, Ronn and its awesome !! Very nice work and cool design Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 You do clean work, Ronn. I always appreciate seeing a meticulous nature. Just curious...is there a reason you didn't just buy 8/4 to save yourself all that gluing? PS...the Domino is a "joiner," not a "jointer." Sorry, terminology police on duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Cool project - just catching up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Eric. said: You do clean work, Ronn. I always appreciate seeing a meticulous nature. Just curious...is there a reason you didn't just buy 8/4 to save yourself all that gluing? Partially because of BF price for thicker stick and also because the Domino "Joiner" will only reach about 1" below the surface so for the mortises in the 3" legs to align with the mortises in the 5" base, I have to build the base to 3", then mortise , then add thickness. Also I cannot pattern route anything that is thicker than 1 1/2", so work 3/4" at a time made sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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