oldman_pottering Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 can anyone tell me if purchasing the Miter Express sled and adding the Incra 1000 miter gauge works out as the same as buying the Miter 5000 ? I don't have the funds to shell out on the 5000 at the moment and was wondering if I can just split the cost by buying seperately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Yes, I believe you can. I have the 1000HD and the miter guage can ride directly in the saw's miter slot or, as in my case, attach to the sled. Why not give Incra a call to be sure, before you shell out some bucks. By the way, good to see you on the forum again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 When you order the Miter 5000, the miter gauge, and sled come in separate boxes, just like if you bought them separately. My sled, that I bought at a Black Friday sale, a couple of years ago, is still in the box. It's a great miter gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I have the 5000. The size of the miter express and the 5000 are different. The 5000 has a bigger sled surface 23 X 15 on the left of the blade and to fence extends to over 60 inches. It might be worth the wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 3, 2021 Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 I think the end price is the same or similar. The 5000 is by far the way to go. I have a miter express and 1000hd i never use the miter express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted July 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 9:07 AM, Mark J said: Yes, I believe you can. I have the 1000HD and the miter guage can ride directly in the saw's miter slot or, as in my case, attach to the sled. Why not give Incra a call to be sure, before you shell out some bucks. By the way, good to see you on the forum again. Good idea and thanks, I drive interstate trucks and am only home on the weekend for a day and a half, my woodworking time is very limited On 7/3/2021 at 9:10 AM, Tom King said: When you order the Miter 5000, the miter gauge, and sled come in separate boxes, just like if you bought them separately. My sled, that I bought at a Black Friday sale, a couple of years ago, is still in the box. It's a great miter gauge. Thank you On 7/3/2021 at 9:47 AM, Chet said: I have the 5000. The size of the miter express and the 5000 are different. The 5000 has a bigger sled surface 23 X 15 on the left of the blade and to fence extends to over 60 inches. It might be worth the wait. Good to know, thanks for the info On 7/3/2021 at 11:05 AM, Chestnut said: I think the end price is the same or similar. The 5000 is by far the way to go. I have a miter express and 1000hd i never use the miter express. Good point, thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Buy the Harvey miter gauge and call it done! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 6:47 PM, pkinneb said: Buy the Harvey miter gauge and call it done! Lol, I did, I am glad I did but I still use my 5000 sled on occasion but less then I used to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 the 5000 is tempting me. The main thing that I want is a longer telescoping fence. I just saw you can order longer fences for the miter gauges so I think I might upgrade my 1000HD. Then because i have a 1000 as well I'll just put the 1000HD fence on my 1000. It's really nice to have 2 miter gauges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 7:00 AM, Chestnut said: It's really nice to have 2 miter gauges. If you want to miter gauges you might want to look at the Harvey Miter Gauge. It put my Incra 1000HD out to pasture. I just use the Harvey most of the time and the Incra 5000 when necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 1:46 PM, Chet said: If you want to miter gauges you might want to look at the Harvey Miter Gauge. It put my Incra 1000HD out to pasture. I just use the Harvey most of the time and the Incra 5000 when necessary. I'm taking you up on this suggestion, ordered one despite having the Incra 1000HD and the miter express. I've love the Incra, and there is no doubting it's accuracy, but the Harvey gauge has more features and looks more user friendly. Now My Incra 1000HD can stay on the miter express, which I do use fairly often when cutting wider panels. I could probably partially retire the miter express if I got a track saw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Chet said: If you want to miter gauges you might want to look at the Harvey Miter Gauge. It put my Incra 1000HD out to pasture. I just use the Harvey most of the time and the Incra 5000 when necessary. The harvey gauge is very attractive looking. I already have 4 miter gauges and have had them all set up and in use on 1 project before. I'd like to get it but i really need a fence with a stop that will extend beyond 36" as i can currently get near 36" but it hasn't been enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle City WW Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 I have used both the miter express and the 5000 and I prefer the 5000 as it has more overall uses in the shop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaDad Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 9:05 PM, Chestnut said: I think the end price is the same or similar. The 5000 is by far the way to go. I have a miter express and 1000hd i never use the miter express. I have an Incra 1000SE and the Miter Express and I also no longer use the sled at all. The 5000 looks like a different story and interests me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted November 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 11:47 AM, pkinneb said: Buy the Harvey miter gauge and call it done! Even though the Miter 5000 is a sled ? On 7/5/2021 at 1:52 AM, Chet said: Lol, I did, I am glad I did but I still use my 5000 sled on occasion but less then I used to. How did the Harvey miter gauge reduce the times you used your 5000 sled ? On 7/7/2021 at 3:46 AM, Chet said: If you want to miter gauges you might want to look at the Harvey Miter Gauge. It put my Incra 1000HD out to pasture. I just use the Harvey most of the time and the Incra 5000 when necessary. In what way was the Harvey so much better ? and when would it be necessary to use the sled? I'm getting myself confused as to whether I need a sled or just a good miter gauge I'm considering upgrading my TS to a Harvey and if I do the Harvey includes the miter gauge in the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 @oldman_woodworker, I'd vote that you move ahead with the Harvey saw and miter gauge. The only advantage of a sled is that the work is supported from below, as well as behind, so small pieces can be handled in a more robust and safe fashion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted November 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 7:13 AM, wtnhighlander said: @oldman_woodworker, I'd vote that you move ahead with the Harvey saw and miter gauge. The only advantage of a sled is that the work is supported from below, as well as behind, so small pieces can be handled in a more robust and safe fashion. I'm leaning that way myself, just wondering if down the track I would still be wanting a sled for the Harvey Miter gauge, I guess I could still purchase the Miter Express and the Harvey gauge would fit into that if needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 12:34 PM, oldman_woodworker said: In what way was the Harvey so much better ? and when would it be necessary to use the sled? I use my Harvey gauge most of the time. But when the piece starts getting wider then 6 inches or is starts getting longer then 4 feet then I go to the 5000. The Harvey is a well built gauge that needs no tools to make adjustments but there are times where the 5000 is the better tool. If you don't have anything get the Harvey first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted November 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 7:44 AM, Chet said: I use my Harvey gauge most of the time. But when the piece starts getting wider then 6 inches or is starts getting longer then 4 feet then I go to the 5000. The Harvey is a well built gauge that needs no tools to make adjustments but there are times where the 5000 is the better tool. If you don't have anything get the Harvey first. Thanks for the info, I rarely cut large pieces, I mainly only fiddle around, at the moment I have a Sherwood TS ( promoted quite a lot here in AU by a larger woodworking company which has been good for the years I've had it but lately the height mechanism has been binding and giving me the tom titts so I figure I might buy myself and very good saw that will be my last and be done with it, I just tell the better half I'm getting a free miter gauge that will cost just under 4 grand.......should be a no brainer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McCully Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 By Harvey miter gauge, I'm assuming you all are talking about the Compass MG-36? https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/compass-miter-gauge-mg-36 Just curious as I'll be in the market for one in the near future. I'd been thinking about the Jess-Em Mite-R-Excell ii, but now you've got me thinking about other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby W Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 I have the Accumiter guage, which is the version before the new Jessem guage, and I love it. It is dead accurate and easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 4:24 PM, Jonathan McCully said: By Harvey miter gauge, I'm assuming you all are talking about the Compass MG-36? https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/compass-miter-gauge-mg-36 Just curious as I'll be in the market for one in the near future. I'd been thinking about the Jess-Em Mite-R-Excell ii, but now you've got me thinking about other options. Yes sir, the MG-36. You’ll never regret it after you get the initial cost behind you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 8:08 PM, Coop said: Yes sir, the MG-36. You’ll never regret it after you get the initial cost behind you. Agreed! What @Coop said above! FWIW Marc is getting ready to do a miter gauge comparison in the not to distant future according to his Instagram posts and confirmed Harvey will be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 4:44 PM, Chet said: when the piece starts getting wider then 6 inches or is starts getting longer then 4 feet then I go to the 5000 What is your max capacity for wide and long. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 On the 5000 the sled is 17 inches wide and I believe the fence extends out 60 inches or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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