Greene & Greene lamps

[Spanky]

2 hours ago, treeslayer said:

 I guess you’re out of luck Spanky

I don’t have a cousin that would give me a drink of free water..........on a hot summer day.  Boy, I hope I don’t see Cousin Dave broke down on the side of the road... 

[Spanky]

Cousin Dave I hope I didn’t make you mad. Keep posting about the lamps. I will try to not pick on you so much.

[treeslayer]

set up a tall auxiliary fence and set the depth real close to coming thru, finished with a hand sawi‘ve made better cuts like this but not too bad, a little sanding got them right. I routed a groove in both the top and bottom of the skirt, this is for the silicone that will hold the 1/8” X 3/4” stained glass strip in the skirt and hold the top and bottom of the skirt together, next is make a tent to fume them, if the weather would just cooperate 

[pkinneb]

3 hours ago, treeslayer said:

 next is make a tent to fume them, if the weather would just cooperate 

FWIW a hot glue gun is your friend on this one. I just use scrap 1/4 x 1" strips and hot glue them together. Then I drape them with a thicker plastic and use tape to hold the plastic together. I use house wrap tape mostly becuase I have a bunch extra but its also 2" wide and very sticky. Put a sample piece in with lamp so you can pull it out and check it against the samples you have.

[treeslayer]

10 minutes ago, pkinneb said:

FWIW a hot glue gun is your friend on this one. I just use scrap 1/4 x 1" strips and hot glue them together. Then I drape them with a thicker plastic and use tape to hold the plastic together. I use house wrap tape mostly becuase I have a bunch extra but its also 2" wide and very sticky. Put a sample piece in with lamp so you can pull it out and check it against the samples you have.

Thanks @pkinneb , you’ve been a great help thru all of this, I made a tent today from some scrap 2X4 I had around and made a sample piece same wood, sanded the same grit. is there a reason to use heavier plastic other than less likely to tear? I’m assuming it should be as tight as possible, have tape and Ace ammonia ready to go as soon as weather permits, garnet shellac flakes are in bound. 

[pkinneb]

22 minutes ago, treeslayer said:

Thanks @pkinneb , you’ve been a great help thru all of this, I made a tent today from some scrap 2X4 I had around and made a sample piece same wood, sanded the same grit. is there a reason to use heavier plastic other than less likely to tear? I’m assuming it should be as tight as possible, have tape and Ace ammonia ready to go as soon as weather permits, garnet shellac flakes are in bound. 

Primarily becuase the last thing you want is to get a tear, rip, etc during the process of fuming. You want to keep the fumes in the tent  

I look forward to the end result.

[treeslayer]

Looking forward to the end as well, getting close if the weather would just clear up, thanks Paul, again

[Chestnut]

Paul where did you get your ammonia? Did you get it locally or order online?

[treeslayer]

19 minutes ago, Chestnut said:

Paul where did you get your ammonia? Did you get it locally or order online?

I’m sure Paul will check in Drew, but he told me he got it at Ace Hardware, Ace brand 

[pkinneb]

1 hour ago, Chestnut said:

Paul where did you get your ammonia? Did you get it locally or order online?

Ace hardware in Champlin, only because it was the closest to me. It was my first time fuming so I followed Pekovich's directions to the letter. Since they provided the desired results I have not moved to anything different.  Also since the ammonia's reusable you only use what you spill, one $5 bottle will probably last me a lifetime

[treeslayer]

In the tent with ammonia for about 6 hours and the resultsvery pleased with the results, turned a nice dark khaki color, the test piece in the middle is the garnet shellac I mixed with one coat of satin ARSthey sure make a nice pair I think, I can enjoy putting finish on now, fuming, mixing my own shellac were both new to me and something I will do again as I love the look, thanks to @pkinneb and @K Cooper for the help and advice, the next pictures will be the completed lamps with the glass installed, Thanks to everyone for following along on this long ride

[treeslayer]

In the tent with ammonia for about 6 hours and the resultsvery pleased with the results, turned a nice dark khaki color, the test piece in the middle is the garnet shellac I mixed with one coat of satin ARS

[treeslayer]

In the pictures one looks a little darker than the other, it’s mostly the light in the shop but one is slightly darker, and I found a couple of small spots I missed with the shellac but that can be dealt with easy enough I think, just thought I would throw in this shot of them together

[Coop]

I’m amazed at the difference of before and after the fuming. Those came out fantastic Dave. Really looking forward to the stained glass. 

[treeslayer]

Thanks Coop, I kind of freaked out when I started laying on the garnet shellac, it appeared very light colored on the wood, but that quickly changer to that nice warm color, I don’t know if that’s normal or not, I know I will be mixing my own shellac from now on, very nice to apply, and I see why you like to spray it

[RichardA]

Excellent color.  I love the look.  Can't wait for the cherry on top.

[pkinneb]

They really look nice Dave! I know the first time I fumed i was like or crap its green LOL but the garnet shellac really gives it a nice end color. I'm with @RichardA can't wait to see them with the glass.

[Ronn W]

I am in awe.  It's great to push inot new territory and have it all work out.

[Chet]

Those really look fantastic Dave.  You did some real fine work.  Looking forward to seeing them in their final location.

[Tom King]

Worth all the effort, and they will be cherished for generations.  No other staining, dyeing, or whatever comes close to what fuming does for White Oak.  I'm sure they look even better in person, than in pictures here.

[treeslayer]

Thanks Tom and you’re right having never tried fuming I was a little apprehensive but the result is impressive. I wish I could take better pictures they are better in person, it’s been quite a ride for me

[treeslayer]

Finished at last ! A few thoughts to finish this up.                                         

Greene and Greene: probably not, the more I looked at them the more I thought more Stickley or Praire or Mission style but not G&G, the shade maybe but now I want to make a true G&G style(someday)

The glass: the sky is the limit here and personal taste of course, I would like to have my glass guy do a scene of some kind. Trees, sky, earth something to show off his talent. 

Base: I think the box joints came out great but I could have used them on the skirt for the shade as well, not to pleased with the pieces I added on to the bottom of the base on the corners, you can tell they were add-on, should have used thicker wood or not at all, wanted the height for the cloud lift. 

Fuming and shellac : I will be doing this again I really like the effect on the QSWO, both were new to me, and making garner shellac was the way to go, thanks again for the help @pkinneb, and @Chet 

Light bulbs: 2 LED, 100 watt equivalent. 

Finish: 2 coats of ARS satin but it did impart a slight tint, next time water bases for the clear color. 

Thanks to everyone for the great comments and following along. It’s been a long journey for me and I think I’ll take a day or two off

[Bmac]

Bravo!

They look great and it's bonus to read your post project recap/thoughts. Enjoyed following along.

[pkinneb]

Awesome! Very nice execution Dave!!

[wtnhighlander]

The lamp is awesome, Dave! I think the fumed oak is perfect with the amber overcoat. To me, fumed oak with non-ambering finish is a bit to gray-green.

Curious, could the 'apron' around the shade be opened up with a wider glass, without comprimising the structure? I think that would add a great dimension for customizing the pieces. Put a pastoral scene in that strip with the pattern as you show for a cloudy sky overhead.