Popular Post bleedinblue Posted November 11, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 My happy place is a humble one, but it's come a long way in a couple years. I don't expect anyone here to get any ideas, inspiration or happy feelings from what I've got or what I've done, but I think it is probably a good idea to track progress and open yourself up for suggestions. Since I am nearing the completion of a project, it was a good time to clean up and snap some pictures. This is my footprint. Not shown in the diagram is where the "shop" ends and where the walkout is. I've got a couple hundred board feet of cherry and maple stacked in the corner by the door, and I do most of my finishing in front of the walkout. It's nice to have the extra space and at least one source of fresh air. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. To the left of the table saw, from this view, the room opens up and there lies one of my biggest deficiencies and the beginning of my workflow. It's really an OK bandsaw...but I say that having not ever used a GOOD bandsaw. It's on my short list to get upgraded. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. Also on the short list, is this baby jointer. It makes (small) boards flat and square...other than that? Ehhh... This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. Next up in the workflow is the Dewalt planer. I have no real reason to upgrade it until/unless I get a floor standing 15" planer, and I really don't know where I'd find the room for it. I'm not real happy with having to roll it out for use, but when I got the drum sander the planer landed here by necessity. The stand was re-purposed from something else and I'll build a new one soon. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. Not necessarily in line with the workflow, but here's my mini-miter station. Built this summer but still needs trim, maybe doors, etc. It's just three feet to one side and two feet to the other, and I like it that way. It fits the space well. The cabinet houses my track saw, Domino, and finishing supplies. It also houses a bunch of scraps that I milled from rough, I thought were maple and turned out to be ash. Whoops. The miter saw it's self is just a Hitatchi 10" non-slider, and I don't care. I'll run it til it dies, then buy another non-slider. The shop vac underneath lives there just to clean up the inevitable miter saw mess. Obviously there is some lumber storage above the station. I purposely built the cabinet on the short side for that reason. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. My table saw. It does what is needed, I have no complaints, other than it is not a Sawstop. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. My tablesaw outfeed table blows. It's going away soon for something more stout and with more storage. The only thing I like about this is the shop vac rests under it nicely. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. The Rockler router table. I just got it this year, it's OK. I think I'm going to remove the steel stand and build my own, but I'll wait until I get a lift. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. The new hotness is the new Supermax 16-32. I've barely used it, as the first project I did after buying it was all plywood (kid's table and chairs) I'm pretty happy with the cabinet though, and it's opened up a bunch of storage. I just need to figure out what best lives in it. This image has been reduced by 70.2%. Click to view full size. The benchtop drill press and mini air compressor. The drill press is the only remnants of harbor freight in the shop. I don't really like it, but I don't really care either. It's very low on my priority list. Higher on my priority list is completing the cabinet it sits on, that whole upper section will be drawers for drill bits and other crap. This image has been reduced by 70.2%. Click to view full size. To one side of the bench is this little....little tool "wall." I've gone to all Liam Neason planes, save for the one POS Stanley block that isn't worth anything to sell. This is a work in progress obviously, I'm going to keep my hand tools to a minimum, but I need a shoulder plane, a couple spoke shaves, etc. The router plane is the LV, I don't use it much and need to figure out why the blade won't secure completely. It "wiggles," even with all adjustments tightened. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. The other side of the bench has this slightly larger, little tool "wall." These were both built from scrap walnut ply, so that's what dictated their size. Whatev. Room to grow here also, obviously. This image has been reduced by 70.2%. Click to view full size. Ridgid sander and tool box o'crap....no real need to upgrade from that sander for now. It needs to be lower, I made that cabinet to be too tall. This image has been reduced by 70.2%. Click to view full size. This is my second workbench but it's not up to snuff, the typical laminated sheets of plywood most of us start out on. It's not my top priority, even as far as shop furniture goes, but sooner than later this will need to be upgraded. But for now, it's heavy, solid and it takes a beating. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. I'm solidly in the "don't need a ton of clamps" camp. I'd take some more but room is going to be a factor. Scrap wood on the floor underneath, and there is a rack of 10-12 long pipe clamps on the other end of the basement for when I need long clamps. Oh yeah, the Irwins are absolute garbage. I'd trade my four for two besseys any day of the week. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. My band-aid solution for dust collection. For now just the flex hose that I take from machine to machine. I'm going to run at least a short bit of PVC to stretch from here to the drum sander and have drops for the planer, jointer, table saw and drum sander. When/If I get convinced we will stay in this house forever, I need to get serious about dust collection. This image has been reduced by 70.2%. Click to view full size. And perhaps my biggest complaint of this shop? The dumb walls. My wife simply rolls her eyes and gives me permission to buy a table saw or drum sander, but I get a flat out NO when I say I want to paint the walls. They're all concrete, too, so they're not functional AND they provide zero manly/woodworking ambiance. This image has been reduced by 60.3%. Click to view full size. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 It may be small, but it looks nice to me. I'm in a similar sized space. I'll have to go thru each pic more slowly to compare any differences and see if I can pick up any good changes to make. Thx for sharing! Also, I have the veritas router plane, and mine is also always a little loose...maybe I should read the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Looks like a space where you could do some fine work. If I had to choose between murals on the walls and tools in the room, the tools win hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Like your miter station and drum sander cabinet you built. Shop is coming along nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Frank, I think over all for the space you have, you have it set up pretty well. I can't get a real accurate feel for the space but the one thing I see that I might try is to move you planer on the other side of you dust system. That way you would have all you milling machines in an area that would save steps. I have my jointer situated in the same place as yours and I have my planer to the right of my jointer so that when I am feeding the stock into the planer it ends up coming out on my outfeed table. The only thing I have to do is fold up the infeed table on the planer to use the jointer, no big deal. I don't know if that would work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chet said: Frank, I think over all for the space you have, you have it set up pretty well. I can't get a real accurate feel for the space but the one thing I see that I might try is to move you planer on the other side of you dust system. That way you would have all you milling machines in an area that would save steps. I have my jointer situated in the same place as yours and I have my planer to the right of my jointer so that when I am feeding the stock into the planer it ends up coming out on my outfeed table. The only thing I have to do is fold up the infeed table on the planer to use the jointer, no big deal. I don't know if that would work for you. It would be tight in the current configuration. But...when I get some pvc up for the dust collector, I'll be more flexible with its placement and I intend on pulling it back as far as I can. When I do that I can get the planer back to the left of the DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 I like the whole darn thing. And it's clean and tidy! My envy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krtwood Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Looks good. Little suggestion from my even smaller shop... stack the drum sander on top of the planer. Frees up a ton of floor space and they have the same infeed/outfeed requirements. Very little downside to having the drum sander up higher, besides having to get it up there in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDi Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 That's a great looking shop. Wish I had all that space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Awesome space! Looks like you have all your tool bases covered to make some amazing projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd711 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Looks great to me! and it's bigger than mine. I only have a 20' x 15' space in the basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassAct Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Great space, great shop! I like it a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Don't feel alone about having some things you don't like in there. I have a router table and a shop cart that don't look that great but do the job. I don't have lots of cash. I do wish I had a Domino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Nice shop! Mine is very close in size (17x30) and while I would like something bigger, it is very usable. Any chance you could exhaust your DC outside, it would free up some floor space. In my shop the only permanent tools are the table saw, out feed table and workbench. I have to keep everything else on mobile bases. My out feed table is very close to yours, instead of building a new one I added drawers to one end and left the shelf on the other. Lets me keep all of the table saw stuff in one place. How large is the foot print for you drum sander? I would really like to replace mine, it's really big and bulky, but I doubt I could convince the boss. I would have to come up with some sort of reason, size would be a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 22 hours ago, bleedinblue said: My wife simply rolls her eyes and gives me permission to buy a table saw or drum sander, but I get a flat out NO when I say I want to paint the walls. Sounds like a good reason to complain more. I'll trade an eye roll and walls painted like a set from Sound of Music in exchange for a new machine any day! And you could always sheath the walls in OSB or plywood to hang stuff! It's not paint! You've got a great setup there! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 If that don't work you could always hang a sheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Just Bob said: Nice shop! Mine is very close in size (17x30) and while I would like something bigger, it is very usable. Any chance you could exhaust your DC outside, it would free up some floor space. In my shop the only permanent tools are the table saw, out feed table and workbench. I have to keep everything else on mobile bases. My out feed table is very close to yours, instead of building a new one I added drawers to one end and left the shelf on the other. Lets me keep all of the table saw stuff in one place. How large is the foot print for you drum sander? I would really like to replace mine, it's really big and bulky, but I doubt I could convince the boss. I would have to come up with some sort of reason, size would be a good place to start. The cabinet's footprint is around 22x31. The motor overhangs by a couple inches, so essentially the footprint of the sander is in the neighborhood of 22x34. This wasn't meant to be a "I look so fat!" type of post guys. I am thankful for what I have and I know a lot are less fortunate than I. I've just been looking at Mel's Felder for too long. Thanks for the comments and kind words. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: I've just been looking at Mel's Felder for too long. Lol I hear you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: This wasn't meant to be a "I look so fat!" type of post guys. I don't know about anybody else, but I certainly didn't take it way. I really enjoy "shop tours" I like seeing how other people set up, and I always learn something new. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, bleedinblue said: This wasn't meant to be a "I look so fat!" type of post guys. 1 hour ago, pkinneb said: Lol I hear you Haha! I ordered a Hammer A3-41 after seeing MattK's video and studying up. A dream machine for me. Shortly after that Mel got his AD941. To his sincere credit, he has made every effort not to step on the toes of those of us who don't have AD941's, but a Hammer A3 ain't a Felder 941. Then again, a Felder isn't a Martin. There's always something else to dream about. PS - I'm thrilled with my A3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Nice looking space. I always find it interesting to see where people place their importance on things when space is at a premium. That being said, I'd love a space that size, with mine being about 2/3 of a single car garage. The forest scene is definitely whimsical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wdwerker Posted November 13, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 You should sneak in something whimsical like a flying pig on that wall. Or a Greenpeace activist chained to a tree ? If it can't go away have fun with it. It's easier to ask for forgiveness than to receive permission. Absolutely no disrespect intended, just a twisted sense of humor. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 10:55 PM, krtwood said: Looks good. Little suggestion from my even smaller shop... stack the drum sander on top of the planer. Frees up a ton of floor space and they have the same infeed/outfeed requirements. Very little downside to having the drum sander up higher, besides having to get it up there in the first place. I was going to ask someone about that. I was thinking of stacking mine (well when i get a sander which i hope is kinda soon). Does it make changing the sand paper a pain? On 11/10/2017 at 8:13 PM, bleedinblue said: but I get a flat out NO when I say I want to paint the walls. Still look better than unpainted concrete. I kinda like the walls. Is there any reason you couldn't swap the DC and where your Husky box is? If you moved the assembly table to the other side of the table saw and put your sander and planer on the back wall stacked like KRT said all your major dust generation would be in 1 area making collection easier. I modified your layout thingy. I don't know if this would help the assembly table could be too big the that spot but it could be the motivation you need to build a new one longer and skinnier. Just thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Interesting thought nut. I had mulled over putting the work bench at the front of the shop before, I'm not sure why I discontinued the thought. I'll think your layout over and see if I could make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krtwood Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Chestnut said: I was going to ask someone about that. I was thinking of stacking mine (well when i get a sander which i hope is kinda soon). Does it make changing the sand paper a pain? I think it's easier as it's right there practically at eye level. If you're looking down at it the dust shroud is kind of in the way. The only downside is that if you needed to use roller stands to support long stuff they generally wouldn't go that high without having to bodge something to make it work but I've never needed to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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