Popular Post Chestnut Posted November 27, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 I started out with milling the leg pieces. I have a top that is 2.5" tall and 8/4 milled to around 1.75" The bottom is 3" and 8/4. I really wanted the top arm to be a bit more delicate looking but after reviewing the design i decided it needed more meat to ensure that the tip doesn't break off. That will make sense later. Cut the through tenon with a router and a bearing guided bit. All that leaves is to square the corners Next i worked on laying out the curves that will be on the arms of the leg assembly. The main curve on the center piece is asymmetrical so i figured all of the curves should follow that style. I pulled out the fence curve things and finally decided on some lines that i liked. After i had one curve for the bottom and top (not pictured, I'll have to take a picture and add later) i used that curve to draw a line to cut to on the other leg assembly. after cutting and shaping the 2nd assembly i transferred the lines back to the other side of the first piece. When working with the french and asymmetrical curves it's hard to draw 2 identical compound curves so this was my method that wasn't making a template. All parts got a 1/4" round over. Through tenon was next. I used the dado stack to get close and then my favorite LN 140 to finesse the fit. I ran into an interesting problem though. What do you do when the tenon cheek is wider than your block plane? The answer was to use 2 block planes. The 140 has a nicker so if i were to clean the entire tenon with it i'd leave gouges everywhere. You can retract the nicker but that's a lot of wrk when you have to clean the 2 sides evenly. Ended up getting an awesome fit. Next up is to work on the extension pieces. It's an idea i got from @Chet on his dining table build. I am using the upper tresle arms to hold the extensions with a 3/4" deep groove. The top will float about the arms by around 1.25". So far all i've done is taken some redwood as test pieces to make sure my idea works. I want to have the slides as far towards the center as possible and leave more solid wood on the end so that there isn't as much drawer slide to see when the extension is out and it might possibly give the leaves more to rest on. All in all i think this idea will work out. I had to get over the idea that the drawer slides needed to be on the ends of the supports. Their location doesn't matter because the leaves and top are mounted to the wood pieces no the drawer slide. With the wood being the key it doesn't matter where the slide is located. Oh the reason for the title is i'm trying to have this complete for Christmas. I'm hosting my immediate family and don't have a table for our dining room currently. I should be able to complete the table with plenty of time to spare. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Very nice execution. Making good progress. Must make the comment that I'm excited to see a bunch of projects started in this section along with Derek's in the Advanced section. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 I'm always amazed how you (and others) can just whip something like this together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 GREAT start. At that pace, should have no issue finishing by Christmas. One thing I've found helpful using asymmetrical curves like a French curve set is to make a small hash or tick mark with my pencil on the acrylic where it meets the wood to line up later. If you can get a start point the same, you usually get pretty dang close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Looking good ! I'm assuming that's cherry your using . How big will the fully extended tabletop be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark J said: I'm always amazed how you (and others) can just whip something like this together. I don't know if it's more amazing or less but I've done the style before so it goes a lot faster. I also am not working from plans so dimensions are made up on the fly. I find that hitting a specific dimension is what slows me down the most. 4 minutes ago, wdwerker said: Looking good ! I'm assuming that's cherry your using . How big will the fully extended tabletop be ? As stated above no idea it's all being made up on the fly. So far it's sitting around 38" x 67" close +/- 2". Extended will be 103" +/-. I'm shooting for 30" from floor to table top. I want it to be comfortable to sit at with a folding chair but not so low that it's awkward. Megan has commented about 5 times that the table looks short but she's comparing it to the benches in my workshop that are at 38" and 35". She's 5'1" and i'm 5'6" and i'm the tallest person in our immediate family so i'm not sure what her concern is all about. 14 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: GREAT start. At that pace, should have no issue finishing by Christmas. One thing I've found helpful using asymmetrical curves like a French curve set is to make a small hash or tick mark with my pencil on the acrylic where it meets the wood to line up later. If you can get a start point the same, you usually get pretty dang close. I mentioned my time line to some friends and they were shocked that i could build a table in less than 2 months time. In reality the work above was mostly done Friday and Sunday last week. After i get the extensions figured out all i have left is to glue together a very very large panel. I have tried that with the acrylic curves but my pencils don't mark on them well at all. I thought about using a wet erase market but i don't have one. I also never measured the start and end points of the curves nor did i measure the angle on the foot so while this way has more back and forth in my mind it was faster. In reality it's probably a wash. I suppose i could use sharpie. Mosquito spray that contains deet removes sharpie from plastic. Can't remember if it degrades acrylic though. I don't think it does because my ray-bans are acrylic and they are just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: Megan has commented about 5 times that the table looks short I had this same problem when the table was out in the shop. It caused me to keep checking my measurements but they were always the same. Once it was in the house it looked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 29" tall actually works great for a table height, especially if you don't have to worry about chairs with arms being pushed under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggers Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 I'm really digging the design. Love the wood choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, wdwerker said: 29" tall actually works great for a table height, especially if you don't have to worry about chairs with arms being pushed under. The chairs will eventually be made by me so they can be what ever i want them to be. but probably without arms. I always found armed dining room chairs to be annoying. Always felt like i was in prison in the chair never to leave again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 That's why dinner plates are round, so you can put an elbow on either side of it. Table's looking great nut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Looking great so far, and I can't wait to see the finished product! Tables always look low without chairs next to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Great work as usual, you’re really cranking out the projects, I’m retired and couldn’t keep up with you. Chairs, how many? They are a challenge, thanks for taking us along for the ride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 You're braver than me if you tackle dining chairs. I have about as much desire to make dining chairs as I do to make kitchen cabinets. I dig the leg design of the table. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Looking good, 'Nut! 29 or 30" is a good table height. I made one 31.5" by accident (forgot to include the thickness of the top), and it was uncomfortably high for anyone under 6 feet tall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, bleedinblue said: You're braver than me if you tackle dining chairs. I have about as much desire to make dining chairs as I do to make kitchen cabinets. I dig the leg design of the table. Chairs are just mini tables. I want to do scuplted seats though. So i'm carefully watching every Bmac build. 2 hours ago, treeslayer said: Great work as usual, you’re really cranking out the projects, I’m retired and couldn’t keep up with you. Chairs, how many? They are a challenge, thanks for taking us along for the ride I'll make 4 to start and then another 2-3 later on. Trouble with a good solid wood dining chair is there aren't many places to store them. My other though is to use benches so we'll see. I have the kitchen table as well that could use a couple more chairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Chestnut said: Mosquito spray that contains deet removes sharpie from plastic. Can't remember if it degrades acrylic though. I don't think it does because my ray-bans are acrylic and they are just fine. Aw man. Forget those chemicals. Sharpie comes off completely with a dab of hand sanitizer.. I actually remember that my pencils had a hard time on the acrylic also. I sanded a bit with 220 to abrade the corner once and it worked great for still being totally clear, but my pencils now will leave a mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Aw man. Forget those chemicals. Sharpie comes off completely with a dab of hand sanitizer.. I actually remember that my pencils had a hard time on the acrylic also. I sanded a bit with 220 to abrade the corner once and it worked great for still being totally clear, but my pencils now will leave a mark. LOL i have mosquito spray but don't have hand sanitizer .... you obviously have never been to MN. If you had you'd hold deet mosquito spray in high praise. Not to cause controversy but I'll take a harmless chemical over, being covered in welts, getting West Nile virus, or Encephalitis any day. That's a good idea. Honestly they don't really need to be clear either. I'll have to remember that for next time thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, Chestnut said: LOL i have mosquito spray but don't have hand sanitizer .... you obviously have never been to MN. If you had you'd hold deet mosquito spray in high praise. Not to cause controversy but I'll take a harmless chemical over, being covered in welts, getting West Nile virus, or Encephalitis any day. That's a good idea. Honestly they don't really need to be clear either. I'll have to remember that for next time thanks. Oh man. I did a lot of growing up in the Ozarks. I've got much love for bug spray. And hatred for mosquitos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisc Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Looks good. Off to a good start. The first time my wife and I hosted Christmas, our Christmas table was a sheet of plywood screwed to our cheap secondhand table. With a table cloth thrown on top, it was the perfect size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 I did some reading of writings by an early 19th Century Methodist circuit rider up that way, Edward Dromgoole Jr. The one thing that stands out that I remember is his complaining of "terrible suffering from flys, nats, and moschetoes" (his spelling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 I’ve spent some time in the BWCA and understand the need for the 98% DEET spray. One year I took some ~30% and it didn’t even start to slow them down. Those mosquitos are brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Looks great! Can’t wait to see this come together. im planning a table and chairs build in the future. Are you fully designing the chairs or starting with some sort of initial design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, JohnG said: I’ve spent some time in the BWCA and understand the need for the 98% DEET spray. One year I took some ~30% and it didn’t even start to slow them down. Those mosquitos are brutal. DNR have found deer that have choked to death on mosquitoes in areas up there. 38 minutes ago, Alan G said: Looks great! Can’t wait to see this come together. im planning a table and chairs build in the future. Are you fully designing the chairs or starting with some sort of initial design? I'll probably design them fully my self. I've been paying attention to chairs a lot lately and have some good ideas on what makes some comfortable and others not so much. I want to do a bit more steep of an angle on the seat. Probably be a 7 degree slow from level instead of 0-5. I'll also make sure the angle from the seat to the back is around 95-100 degrees probably closer to the 95. I'm going to do a few prototypes probably so we'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis O'Shea Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Outstanding love the wood choice and love the design. I too like working on the fly with no plans keep the pic's coming again looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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