treeslayer Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Looks great John, what’s the plan for the corners? Full half lap, mitered half lap? I like to do frames in batches, great gifts and nice to have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 I bet, since he’s using splines, just mitered. If you don’t have a mitering jig like Kev’s, do yourself a favor and make you one. Pinpoint accuracy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, treeslayer said: Looks great John, what’s the plan for the corners? Full half lap, mitered half lap? I like to do frames in batches, great gifts and nice to have around. 1 hour ago, K Cooper said: I bet, since he’s using splines, just mitered. If you don’t have a mitering jig like Kev’s, do yourself a favor and make you one. Pinpoint accuracy! Yep, just planning on plain miters with a single full kerf width spline at each joint. I used my Incra 1000HD miter gauge for my last batch of frames and the miters came out perfect without having to make any micro adjustments. I’ll use a few offcuts to do a test first, but I imagine it will still be spot on. Will check out his jig too, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Continued... Also took a minute to clean all of my table saw blades today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 A couple years ago I made a bunch of frames exactly like this 1" Cherry with walnut splines. I should do another big batch as they are nice to have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I was able to use scraps and odd size cutoffs to make all of these. That’s mainly what prompted the batch. If I get them done in time I’ll give some as Christmas presents and the rest I’ll keep around for future gifts or sell to acquaintances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post legenddc Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Looks like a fun project. I'm trying to figure out what to make over some upcoming time off. Hoping I can get a few more improvements done in the shop before then. This weekend I removed an old desk I was using as a workbench, made a smaller workbench and almost completely emptied this little workroom. Still a few things left to put back, but in a lot better place then before. Able to fit the lathe cart in that room now so when I'm not using the lathe I'll be able to keep it out of my tiny shop. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Sawdust Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Ran out of propane for heating my shop but I gotta get serious this weekend on my current project. Christmas is coming up like a freight train! So time for more propane (and propane accessories! lol) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 More progress... All of the 4x6 frames glued up and dried 5x7s in the “clamps” now. Then splines, sanding, and finishing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Looks great @JohnG, are you going to put a profile on the edges and what do you do to hold the glass and picture in place? Also would you show a picture of the spline jig you use, I made a quick one about 20 years ago and could use some ideas for a replacement, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’m not going to do any profile on these, keeping it simple. For frames I keep or that I give to family with a photo in it, I have a point driver that I use. If I give it away/sell without a photo, I put those little turn buttons on the back. I don’t particularly like my spline jig, it’s crude and is a pain to set up and use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 that's the same thing i do, wife bought me a Fletcher Framemaster a long time ago, still works great. i'll do a search and see if i can come up with a better spline jig on here or somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mine doesn’t use the miter slot, so I have to clamp it onto my crosscut jig, which I also don’t like anymore, and I end up with a bunch of blocks and clamps to hold everything in place. I want to make a wide one that uses the miter slot, and maybe recess a piece of T track to use a stop to register the piece. Something like the jig Cremona made for the tea box project with some modifications. I have the logan point driver and it seems to work well, but I haven’t used any others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coop Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Dave, here’s one that I used for years, referenced against my fence. Then I got “fancy” and made this one that fits in the miter slot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 I like the second one @K Cooper, maybe add a t-track for an adjustable stop like @JohnG thought, that’s going on my project list for sure, thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mine works off the fence as well, and it's a snap to make and use. It's kinda like a tenon jig that they sell to run in the miter slot. Easy adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RichardA said: Mine works off the fence as well, and it's a snap to make and use. It's kinda like a tenon jig that they sell to run in the miter slot. Easy adjustment. Got a picture to share my friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Some of you may recall this carving I posted just after it was done: Looks like Lady Liberty may not be with us for much longer. Termites have almost destroyed the stump she was carved from. Property owner is a local tire and lube shop. No idea if they plan to salvage the carving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: No idea if they plan to salvage the carving. It would be a shame if somebody didn't pursue saving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnG Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Made more headway on my picture frames. Glued in the splines yesterday so today was trimming the splines flush and sanding the fronts and backs of the frames flush. When taping up the frames I try to get all the faces aligned, but sometimes there are pieces that just don’t want to cooperate. I made a quick L fence for trimming the splines and it was fantastic. It felt like cheating. Trimmed 23 frames in just a few minutes with no tearout or fuss. Then started sanding the frames on my pottery whee— er — horizontal low speed disc sander with foot speed control and sawdust basin. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 I hate trimming splines and have done nowhere as many as you. Explain your L fence please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Great idea for trimming the splines John, consider that stolen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, K Cooper said: Explain your L fence please. Ken, if you have access to Fine Woodworking's online content there is a video that Bob Van Dyke does explaining all the ways you can use an "L" fence. Look under videos and go down to Woodworking jigs. there is about 10 pages of videos under that section but it is in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 I guess I need to come of age. I get the paper publication but have never subscribed to the online. They keep pounding me to do so. Another fine example of you costing me money! Thanks Bud for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnG Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 This was the first time I used one, but I don’t think I’ll ever trim splines any other way. It’s pretty simple. Mine is two layers of 1/2” MDF pin nailed together and then blue tape and CA glued to my regular fence. The thickness of your pieces will depend on your frame thickness and spline location. The lower piece is narrower and they are flush on the fence side. This creates an overhang over the blade. You align the blade to exactly flush with the edge of the top MDF (or just a fraction of a hair proud of the MDF). You use the edge of the frame as a reference to ride along the L Fence, with the splines riding under the top MDF piece. I raised the blade into the top MDF piece slightly, making sure not to raise it higher than the thickness of the frame. FWW articles and podcast mention many other uses for the L fence you can make them with much larger overhangs and use them for template cutting and other flush-cutting operations. Edit to add: You can see on the last pic that I used these cutoffs to dial in the blade location. There’s a visible ledge on the bottom 1/3 from when the blade was too far out. I settled with a spot where you can find a ledge only if you are closely inspecting the frame. That way I ensured that the splines would be flush and no glue residue was left on the frame, but just a swipe or two with 220 grit will remove it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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